Ireland to enforce a hard border

[original PM]

No. Your point was about change and resistance to change. I was pointing out that not all change is good.

The fact that you wouldn't call people who voted to be taken over by North Korea a cretin is sadly unsurprising.

Well of course not all change is good - and the concept of the people ever taking a vote on whether we want to be ruled by North Korea is patently ridiculous.

However there is a large difference between leaving the EU and being ruled over by NK so not really sure what you were trying to say.

[JohntheBike]

Don't see it as being a problem other than for Eire. What the EU should do is negotiate a deal with the UK It's quite simple you sit down and say together that these are the trading terms for import/exports between our two territories The problem with the EU is that they don't want a deal because they don't want us to leave and keep forgetting we're a sovereign nation and won't be a member of the EU soon

For those younger posters, there never was hard trading border with Eire and mainland UK even before the EU existed. In fact, anyone born in Eire prior to 1948 could apply for dual citizenship. The hard border was always between Eire and NI as a result of terrorist activities. There has never been any restriction on the freedom of movement of Eire nationals with the UK. Eire nationals could come to this country without having a passport. This is related to the unique history of the two nations, Eire was once part of the UK. I would agree that the EU is making things unnecessarily difficult.

[GreenMirror]

However there is a large difference between leaving the EU and being ruled over by NK so not really sure what you were trying to say.

Indeed. NK is far more democratic.

Did you know Barnier did a round of 37 shots? Though his was not golf.....

[Old Greg]

Well of course not all change is good - and the concept of the people ever taking a vote on whether we want to be ruled by North Korea is patently ridiculous.

However there is a large difference between leaving the EU and being ruled over by NK so not really sure what you were trying to say.

Not all change is good. Therefore you should establish that a change is good before whining about resistance to change.

[Old Greg]

For those younger posters, there never was hard trading border with Eire and mainland UK even before the EU existed. In fact, anyone born in Eire prior to 1948 could apply for dual citizenship. The hard border was always between Eire and NI as a result of terrorist activities. There has never been any restriction on the freedom of movement of Eire nationals with the UK. Eire nationals could come to this country without having a passport. This is related to the unique history of the two nations, Eire was once part of the UK. I would agree that the EU is making things unnecessarily difficult.

There has always been free movement of people, but for goods, not until the 1965 Anglo-Irish Free Trade
Area Agreement. Customs checks were established in the 1920s, it is said, to find a way of paying an oversized Irish army following the Irish Civil War.

[WTFH]

It is easy to tell who is scared of change - it is those that refuse to accept it is happening and prepare to adjust for the change.

What are you so scared of?

(that is not you personally by the way but you as in the remainers.)

If someone from the Brexit camp would care to concisely tell us what the change is going to be, then we could prepare for it. So far, anytime you're asked, you change the subject or switch to insulting.

Kotter, and all the others who write about change are very clear. If you want to change, you need to know what you are changing from and what you want to change to. As yet, the specifics of the "to-be" status are a mystery to all Brexit supporters, so how are the rest of us supposed to be preparing?

[JohntheBike]

There has always been free movement of people, but for goods, not until the 1965 Anglo-Irish Free Trade
Area Agreement. Customs checks were established in the 1920s, it is said, to find a way of paying an oversized Irish army following the Irish Civil War.

"the 1965 Anglo-Irish Free Trade Area Agreement."

a clue there then!

[Zigenare]

If someone from the Brexit camp would care to concisely tell us what the change is going to be, then we could prepare for it. So far, anytime you're asked, you change the subject or switch to insulting.

Kotter, and all the others who write about change are very clear. If you want to change, you need to know what you are changing from and what you want to change to. As yet, the specifics of the "to-be" status are a mystery to all Brexit supporters, so how are the rest of us supposed to be preparing?

Oh, the Ironing.

[shaunbhoy]

If someone from the Brexit camp would care to concisely tell us what the change is going to be,

The "changes" relate to how the future will play out.

These could evolve in a whole myriad of directions. That would also be the case even if we had decided to Remain, although probably less turbulently.

If it is absolute certainty you are after then you are living in cloud cuckoo land. Perhaps you are just not cut out for the big wide world?

Maybe you got too many "mummy cuddles" whilst growing up. Whatever the reason, you come across as very needy.