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    #21
    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    It all flies over your head, doesn't it. All the great Empires of history have fallen down on the same thing - by believing they are the dogs dangly bits, and forgetting that the majority (or the rest of the world) think they are a bunch of s
    Now stop talking down the Great British Empire, that is traitorous talk and Nigel will be round shortly to give you a stern talking to...
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
      You're a factor 10 too low (but you probably deny the Holocaust so your numbers will be lower)

      Is it necessary to blame the grandchildren for the crimes their grand parents committed?
      If I denied the Holocaust why would I mention "6 Million people" who we can largely agree were non-combatants and can be referred to as "Murdered"?

      As for blaming the grandchildren, where did that come from? My point was that the atrocities committed by the Germans in the run up to and during WWII seem to have been offloaded to the "Nazi's" - and the Germans largely "forgiven".

      So in the grand scheme of things, helping in saving my country from being dragged ever further towards an EU superstate isn't a major crime, not like "Genocide" :nazi:
      Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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        #23
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        Now stop talking down the Great British Empire, that is traitorous talk and Nigel will be round shortly to give you a stern talking to...
        Ah yes. When Britain rules two thirds of the earth. While destroying most of it. And almost everyone in Britain lived in total poverty.

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          #24
          Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
          Now stop talking down the Great British Empire, that is traitorous talk and Nigel will be round shortly to give you a stern talking to...
          The British Empire was probably the most guilty of extreme arrogance, hence there's not much of it left. A few of the Bahamas and some rock the Spanish can't stop getting their knickers in a twist over. I see nothing to prevent the EU going the same way over the coming decades. Making up some rules, and expecting the rest of the world to fall in line does not necessarily a glorious and prosperous future make.
          His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mordac View Post
            It all flies over your head, doesn't it. All the great Empires of history have fallen down on the same thing - by believing they are the dogs dangly bits, and forgetting that the majority (or the rest of the world) think they are a bunch of s

            The EU will be consumed by their own ideology in the same way that everyone from Charlemagne to Hitler was. Discuss...
            At last, a Brexiter who understands that we can't go back to the great British Empire as its days are long over. Welcome to the modern world of countries working together without the need for violence and force (well, if you ignore Russia and the US)
            I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mordac View Post
              The British Empire was probably the most guilty of extreme arrogance, hence there's not much of it left. A few of the Bahamas and some rock the Spanish can't stop getting their knickers in a twist over. I see nothing to prevent the EU going the same way over the coming decades. Making up some rules, and expecting the rest of the world to fall in line does not necessarily a glorious and prosperous future make.
              This is the great Brexit lie. The EU is not trying to make an empire. It is a trading block with other rules and regulations aligned. Many areas around the world are or have formed similar blocks (ASEAN, SADC). These blocks are none a bad thing. They're never going to be perfect but they're certainly not as bad as empires forged through violence.
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #27
                Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                This is the great Brexit lie. The EU is not trying to make an empire. It is a trading block with other rules and regulations aligned. Many areas around the world are or have formed similar blocks (ASEAN, SADC). These blocks are none a bad thing. They're never going to be perfect but they're certainly not as bad as empires forged through violence.
                How naïve.
                Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                  How naïve.
                  Meh. Your view.
                  I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    This is the great Brexit lie. The EU is not trying to make an empire. It is a trading block with other rules and regulations aligned. Many areas around the world are or have formed similar blocks (ASEAN, SADC). These blocks are none a bad thing. They're never going to be perfect but they're certainly not as bad as empires forged through violence.
                    Something which has a currency, a parliament, an Executive, a diplomatic service and is about to have an army - and you call it a trading block? If that's not the greatest lie ever told I don't know what is...
                    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
                      Something which has a currency, a parliament, an Executive, a diplomatic service and is about to have an army - and you call it a trading block? If that's not the greatest lie ever told I don't know what is...
                      And why is that an empire? No one has been conquered, there is no dictator, there are no slaves and no secret service watching every move you make. And everyone is free to leave.

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