Uk trade deals with other countries will be worse than they are now

[Zigenare]

Have you read what you've posted?

Given the premise that India didn't have a mobile network in the first place, how do you think they got one?

Do you think that some thick squaddie like SB woke up one morning and thought... "I know what I'll do for the next 10 minutes, I'll plan and install a countrywide mobile telecoms infrastructure!!!!"?

The mind truly boggles!

They got one through investment, research, planning, land purchase, implementation, commissioning, testing etc.

All of which started a hell of a lot earlier than 2 years before the powers that be said "**** me, I woke up this morning and behold, we have a mobile telecoms network!".

[sasguru]

They got one through investment, research, planning, land purchase, implementation, commissioning, testing etc.

All of which started a hell of a lot earlier than 2 years before the powers that be said "**** me, I woke up this morning and behold, we have a mobile telecoms network!".

Indeed, but our point is that it is very unlikely (I'm being understated here ) that SB, given his obvious intellectual defects, was a huge mover and shaker in the project.

[Zigenare]

Indeed, but our point is that it is very unlikely (I'm being understated here ) that SB, given his obvious intellectual defects, was a huge mover and shaker in the project.

I'd venture he was more of one on that project than you were.

[sasguru]

I'd venture he was more of one on that project than you were.

Indeed, seeing I wasn't involved in that project at all, his peeling spuds in the canteen/cleaning the toilets/making the tea would make him "more of one on that project than you were".
Bit slow on the uptake/getting the point today, aren't you?
Or is it just business as usual?

[Zigenare]

Indeed, seeing I wasn't involved in that project at all, his peeling spuds in the canteen/cleaning the toilets/making the tea would make him "more of one on that project than you were".
Bit slow on the uptake/getting the point today, aren't you?
Or is it just business as usual?

Yet you venture forth with vitriol about a matter of which you know naught!

[sasguru]

Yet you venture forth with vitriol about a matter of which you know naught!

What vitriol?
We're correctly taking the piss out of SB's implied, ridiculous assertion that he was some kind of mover and shaker in the setting up of the Indian mobile phone industry.
When the evidence of his posts is that he'd be unable to set up his mobile phone.

[shaunbhoy]

Indeed, but our point is that it is very unlikely (I'm being understated here ) that SB, given his obvious intellectual defects, was a huge mover and shaker in the project.

Never claimed to be a "huge mover and shaker".

But I WAS the Field Implementation Manager for one of the 2 networks in Calcutta with responsibility for coordinating the civil installations, the commissioning and Integration of all the basesites in the Network as well as the training of the customer engineering team for the ongoing maintenance of the network.

Just one cog in a large team, but one that shouldered a substantial part of the project workload and responsibility.

I can see that your envy is getting the better of you again when it once more becomes plain that your rather sheltered parochial work history is at least in part responsible for your insecurity.

Oh well........There are those that do and those that just talk about doing. Twas ever thus I suppose with mummy's boys like you.

[sasguru]

Never claimed to be a "huge mover and shaker".

But I WAS the Field Implementation Manager for one of the 2 networks in Calcutta with responsibility for coordinating the civil installations, the commissioning and Integration of all the basesites in the Network as well as the training of the customer engineering team for the ongoing maintenance of the network.

Just one cog in a large team, but one that shouldered a substantial part of the project workload and responsibility.

I can see that your envy is getting the better of you again when it once more becomes plain that your rather sheltered parochial work history is at least in part responsible for your insecurity.

Oh well........There are those that do and those that just talk about doing. Twas ever thus I suppose with mummy's boys like you.

Yes I'm really envious of your junior manager career high
FFS which planet do you Brexit losers live on?

[shaunbhoy]

Yes I'm really envious

You should be, travelling the world furthering technology consigns your dreary deskbound banal powerpoint existence into a cocked hat.

[Cirrus]

Indeed, but our point is that it is very unlikely that SB, given his obvious intellectual defects, was a huge mover and shaker in the project.

I really don't think you can extrapolate in that way. The Brexiteers I know seem to have been reasonably good at their chosen professions.

SB does not necessarily have general intellectual defects. His weakness is connected with idealogies, falling for notions that have no tangible base. We've got where we are today through idealogies so you can't just ignore them. However they only work if enough people believe in them and the ideas are not contradicted too heavily by reality. You can believe you are going to heaven because there is no hard evidence that you don't actually get there. Brexit is more tricky because it predicts things that are more open to challenge. You can say heaven is anywhere in the known universe or indeed in some transcendental domain. However when you talk about wonderful new trade agreements then we all immediately know 1) How many trading partnerss there are, 2) How long trade deals take to agree, 3) What many of the counterparties have already indicated what adverse factors may come into play, etc etc.

SB and other Brexiteers are not equipped to scrutinize idealogical claims that appeal to their emotions. They latch onto them and then stick to them through thick and thin.

None of this impacts on managing big projects. SB would not have had to evaluate sophisticated and emotionally charged issues like this. There's not much scope for idealogy in Mobile Network installation. So I could quite believe he was very good at what he did.