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UK to offer new immigration deal to the EU

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    #11
    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    I have no problems with 'foreigners' as you so nicely put it.

    I have problems with large numbers of economic migrants who do not have their host countries best interest at heart.
    Do you have proof of that? Can you quite honestly say that most of the migrants are economic migrants, now remember, we're talking about non-EU folk here because they don't have freedom of movement but can be stopped by the UK border agency from entering the country. If they are allowed into the country then surely they're not economic migrants are they but suffering from war, torture and other such subjects that you haven't encountered. Now please don't tell me that it wasn't about immigration....
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #12
      Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
      Do you have proof of that? Can you quite honestly say that most of the migrants are economic migrants, now remember, we're talking about non-EU folk here because they don't have freedom of movement but can be stopped by the UK border agency from entering the country. If they are allowed into the country then surely they're not economic migrants are they but suffering from war, torture and other such subjects that you haven't encountered. Now please don't tell me that it wasn't about immigration....
      We have been here before

      Step 1
      Arrive in southern european country

      Step 2
      Claim you are 14 and a refugee from war

      Step 3
      Hit your mates up on your iPhone and rob some new trainers

      Step 4
      Head to Cologne station to celebrate new year,


      But putting that aside.

      Immigration and a perceived lack of control was one of the factors which contributed to some people voting Brexit - there you go is that acceptable?

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        #13
        Originally posted by original PM View Post
        We have been here before

        Step 1
        Arrive in southern european country

        Step 2
        Claim you are 14 and a refugee from war

        Step 3
        Hit your mates up on your iPhone and rob some new trainers

        Step 4
        Head to Cologne station to celebrate new year,


        But putting that aside.

        Immigration and a perceived lack of control was one of the factors which contributed to some people voting Brexit - there you go is that acceptable?
        Ah, the Daily Mail fact bible...But this still doesn't point to immigration in the UK as they only got as far as Cologne, also doesn't actually answer the question in point, but that's to be expected as facts were never a Brexit strong point
        Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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          #14
          Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
          Ah, the Daily Mail fact bible...But this still doesn't point to immigration in the UK as they only got as far as Cologne, also doesn't actually answer the question in point, but that's to be expected as facts were never a Brexit strong point
          https://fullfact.org/immigration/uk-refugees/

          "In 2016, there were around 39,000 applications for asylum in the UK. That’s including dependant family members of the main applicant. Those asylum seekers are counted among the estimated 600,000 immigrants to the UK in the 12 months to September 2016, most of whom come to work or study."

          So, (39000/~600000)*100 = 6.5% of estimated immigrants applied for asylum, the rest are economic (93.5%).

          Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
          Do you have proof of that? Can you quite honestly say that most of the migrants are economic migrants, now remember, we're talking about non-EU folk here because they don't have freedom of movement but can be stopped by the UK border agency from entering the country. SNIP
          Yes, see above
          HTH
          Last edited by Bean; 30 April 2018, 10:17.
          Originally posted by Old Greg
          I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
          ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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            #15
            Originally posted by Bean View Post
            https://fullfact.org/immigration/uk-refugees/

            "In 2016, there were around 39,000 applications for asylum in the UK. That’s including dependant family members of the main applicant. Those asylum seekers are counted among the estimated 600,000 immigrants to the UK in the 12 months to September 2016, most of whom come to work or study."

            So, (39000/~600000)*100 = 6.5% of estimated immigrants applied for asylum, the rest are economic.

            HTH
            Are you saying that everyone who comes to study in the UK is an economic migrant?
            …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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              #16
              https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-uk-3-to-study
              317,000 study visas last year which would be about 53% of your 600,000
              …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                #17
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                It was always about anti immigrants, especially from Eastern Europe
                Only in your case...
                His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                  Are you saying that everyone who comes to study in the UK is an economic migrant?
                  Only the long-term ones, as per UN definition, referred to in;

                  https://www.ft.com/content/1c61c180-...a-903b21361b43

                  and more detail found here;
                  http://www.unesco.org/new/en/social-...ssary/migrant/
                  Last edited by Bean; 30 April 2018, 11:22.
                  Originally posted by Old Greg
                  I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
                  ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                    https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-uk-3-to-study
                    317,000 study visas last year which would be about 53% of your 600,000
                    Sorry, but some authoritative organisation(s) disagree with your view;

                    Migrant | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
                    Originally posted by Old Greg
                    I admit I'm just a lazy, lying cretinous hypocrite and must be going deaf
                    ♕Keep calm & carry on♕

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Bean View Post
                      Sorry, but some authoritative organisation(s) disagree with your view;

                      Migrant | United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
                      Please quote the exact section of the page you linked to which disagrees with the UK government (not me), with regard to your opinion that people coming to study are economic migrants.
                      …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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