Brexit good for the EU

[darmstadt]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8286296.html

Maybe the rest of Europe are thinking, "put your own comments here but I reckon that the phrases 'whining Britis', 'one well ****ed up country' and 'Eurosceptics will believe any old bollocks on the side of a bus' will be in there "

[original PM]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8286296.html

Maybe the rest of Europe are thinking, "put your own comments here but I reckon that the phrases 'whining Britis', 'one well ****ed up country' and 'Eurosceptics will believe any old bollocks on the side of a bus' will be in there "

Indeed- but the French have never had a sense of humour

[Bean]

Indeed- but the French have never had a sense of humour

Oooooh a touch too soon surely?

Darmy only recently got done over by a good'un on the 1st April, in his rush to gnash his teeth and froth at the mouth, over Brexit

[Mordac]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8286296.html

Maybe the rest of Europe are thinking, "put your own comments here but I reckon that the phrases 'whining Britis', 'one well ****ed up country' and 'Eurosceptics will believe any old bollocks on the side of a bus' will be in there "

It probably is good for the rest of the EU, if truth be told. They can get on with forming a single nation state, removing whatever democracy is left, and they won't have to listen to the whining Brits who still believe in such old fashioned cockwaffle. Don't believe all your own hype, however, Euroscepticism across the EU will only increase in the future. It's only a matter of time before people begin to ask "how the f*** did we end up with this complete arse Juncker as our President"?

[darmstadt]

It probably is good for the rest of the EU, if truth be told. They can get on with forming a single nation state, removing whatever democracy is left, and they won't have to listen to the whining Brits who still believe in such old fashioned cockwaffle. Don't believe all your own hype, however, Euroscepticism across the EU will only increase in the future. It's only a matter of time before people begin to ask "how the f*** did we end up with this complete arse Juncker as our President"?

Sour, sour, sour. Juncker is out next year anyway as the EU is actually quite democratic if you cared to check the facts (although Brexiteers don't care about facts...)

[vetran]

Sour, sour, sour. Juncker is out next year anyway as the EU is actually quite democratic if you cared to check the facts (although Brexiteers don't care about facts...)

I suppose they thought appointing an alcoholic worked with Churchill, maybe Drunker will have his drunkest hour!

the EU is actually quite democratic

Strange they aren't great at asking their voters before they move towards ever closer union!

[darmstadt]

I suppose they thought appointing an alcoholic worked with Churchill, maybe Drunker will have his drunkest hour!

How's that old pisshead Davies getting on?

Strange they aren't great at asking their voters before they move towards ever closer union!

You should have checked out a few things first:

The EU has more democratic checks than any other international structure we belong to.

EU legislation requires approval both of those directly elected MEPs and of the Council, composed of national ministers accountable to national parliaments.

The EU’s central administration, the Commission is headed by a team of Commissioners, each one nominated by the Prime Minister (or President) of their country. However, before taking office, they are each subject to a public hearing by the relevant committee of the European Parliament, at which they are cross-examined for three hours. Every time, some fail to pass this hurdle. Imagine if newly appointed ministers in our government were subject to a similar confirmation hearing: it would be revealing!

The President of the Commission is elected by the European Parliament on a proposal of the European Council. The proposal must reflect the outcome of the European parliamentary elections, and is made straight after them. This resembles the way in which, in our country, the Queen appoints a Prime Minister in function of the election results – but with the safeguard that there is actually an explicit vote.

Once in office, normally for the full five years between European parliament elections, the Commission remains accountable. Although not a very powerful body it can be dismissed by the Parliament in a vote of no-confidence at any moment. Commissioners regularly come before Parliament for questioning and debating, as they do before the ministers in the Council.

And as to the Court of Justice of the EU, it does not adopt laws, but settles disputes referred to it on the meaning of the laws already adopted. In the words of its former British President, it does not take political decisions, but sometimes has to remind politicians of the decisions they have taken”.

https://eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/201...-eu-democracy/

[Bean]

<SNIP> "This resembles the way in which, in our country, the Queen appoints a Prime Minister in function of the election results – but with the safeguard that there is actually an explicit vote."

[original PM]

"The EU has more democratic checks than any other international structure we belong to."

A lot of bureaucracy is not necessarily a good thing.

[darmstadt]

"The EU has more democratic checks than any other international structure we belong to."

A lot of bureaucracy is not necessarily a good thing.

The UK is one of the most bureaucratic countries going but luckily for Brexiteers, once you've left the EU then all that will go by the wayside. Welcome to no checks and balances