Nick Clegg: Second referendum needed as Brexit voters are dying off

[BrilloPad]

Could we not have a 2nd Scottish independence referendum instead?

[Hobosapien]

There will be another vote when the plebs realise their 'leave' vote has resulted in the UK staying while at the same time leaving (under the guise of a never ending 'transitional period'), as it's what those in government have been told to do. Surely they can't be as incompetent as they appear*, and are fudging it to keep their network of corrupt self serving buddies happy.

So the vote will then be stay to get the better leave deal than if they voted leave and get neither.

*Though I suppose it mirrors typical public sector IT system upgrades where they end up keeping the old system when the new one fulfils less than 50% of the original 'dream', and they'd have been better off not starting the project in the first place.

[shaunbhoy]

There will be another vote when the plebs realise their 'leave' vote has resulted in the UK staying while at the same time leaving (under the guise of a never ending 'transitional period'), as it's what those in government have been told to do. Surely they can't be as incompetent as they appear*, and are fudging it to keep their network of corrupt self serving buddies happy.

So the vote will then be stay to get the better leave deal than if they voted leave and get neither.

*Though I suppose it mirrors typical public sector IT system upgrades where they end up keeping the old system when the new one fulfils less than 50% of the original 'dream', and they'd have been better off not starting the project in the first place.

It may well turn out that the UK ends up with what is, to all intents and purposes, what might have been achieved had Cameron been any good at Poker.

If that is the case then it may well satisfy enough "Leave" voters that we have improved our position enough to warrant taking matters no further.

Seems like an incredibly convoluted way to attain what we sought, but maybe that is just how Politics is meant to work?

[BrilloPad]

It may well turn out that the UK ends up with what is, to all intents and purposes, what might have been achieved had Cameron been any good at Poker.

If that is the case then it may well satisfy enough "Leave" voters that we have improved our position enough to warrant taking matters no further.

Seems like an incredibly convoluted way to attain what we sought, but maybe that is just how Politics is meant to work?

Or maybe if Cameron was not so completely out of touch. He only called a referendum as he thought he was guaranteed to win. He did not realize how much he was loathed and despised.

[northernladyuk]

You're assuming of course, that all young voters are stupid enough to blindly sign up to Juncker's vision of a single European state, with himself as Emperor for Life, and don't have the basic intelligence to spot the catch. In which case, you're probably right...

When are you dying off?

[BrilloPad]

When are you dying off?

As soon as the 4th Reich is complete and Germany invades.

[WTFH]

As soon as the 4th Reich is complete and Germany invades.

I’m not sure Germany will be able to defeat the UK 4th Reich

[The_Equalizer]

Second Brexit referendum needed because Leave voters are dying off, Nick Clegg suggests

I can't fault his logic...

What logic? Are we now saying that people's opinions are fixed throughout their life? Once a student Marxist always a Marxist?

[motoukenin]

Second Brexit referendum needed because Leave voters are dying off, Nick Clegg suggests

I can't fault his logic...

In 2016, 443525 people aged 65 and over died in the UK. This figure is more or less similar on a year by year basis.
Apparently 64% of people aged 65 and over voted Brexit. So 283856 fewer Brexit voters every year and 159669 fewer Remain voters.

I believe that every year, about 800,000 people turn 18 every year, and so become eligible to vote. About 71% of these vote Remain. So by that token, 568000 new Remain voters and 232000 new Leave voters.

The net being 408000 new Remain voters and 52000 fewer Leave voters, every year.

The 'Leave' campaign won by 1,269,501

So a little maths shows that 2.7 years after the original referendum, that the 1269501 majority would be completely wiped out. Coincidentally, that would be around March 2019.

Of course, this assumed 100% turnout, but I think if there was a second referendum then turnout would be higher than the first, on the basis that Brexiters would turn out in force to avoid overturning, and Remainers would turn out in force to get the overturn they have moaned about.

Add in a swing in the 'still alive' population from Leave to Remain, then it stands to logic that a second referendum, an Exit from Brexit referendum if you listen to Vinny C, held in early 2019, would result in a Remain:Leave vote of about 52:48. (Of course, Nigel would cry that this is unfinished business)

Is this the long game? Is Cleggy right?

Conservatives have a big problem in that they only got 14% of the young vote and that's decreasing

[The_Equalizer]

Conservatives have a big problem in that they only got 14% of the young vote and that's decreasing

Perhaps we need to re-run the 1970s news in SU bars across the UK? Certainly more efficient that getting Corbyn in for a short while.