Okay - I was wrong on Brexit

[The_Equalizer]

But that would have required tackling the excesses of the tabloid press over the last 40 years - not that easy really.

Such things never are, but doing something about the obvious problems wouldn't have hurt.

[northernladyuk]

Levels of immigration have been unprecedent. Not entirely due to our EU membership, but that was a factor and, like all such events, it's not just one thing. Take the piss out of someone's genuine concerns and you're likely to get a two fingered response.

People are taking the piss out of Brexit as a response to the concern (and of course to the genuine concern that Turkey is joining the EU). Non-EU immigration has been within the government's control, so there were clearly simpler solutions to immigration than Brexit.

I can of course see that Brexiteers will be reacting crossly to the clever meanies, as it dawns on them that they've screwed up the economy. We are nearly there though. We see less and less of Brexiteers claiming it's going to work out great. It's increasingly about whose fault the mess is.

[northernladyuk]

Such things never are, but doing something about the obvious problems wouldn't have hurt.

Lack of critical thinking skills? Another complex issue.

[WTFH]

Such things never are, but doing something about the obvious problems wouldn't have hurt.

You mean like our Home Secretary could have done something about our sovereign borders
And our government could have enacted some sovereign laws

...but they chose not to, in the hope that the rags could convince their worshippers that it was not Westminster doing sweet FA, but that Europe was stopping Westminster from doing anything at all.

[The_Equalizer]

You mean like our Home Secretary could have done something about our sovereign borders
And our government could have enacted some sovereign laws

...but they chose not to, in the hope that the rags could convince their worshippers that it was not Westminster doing sweet FA, but that Europe was stopping Westminster from doing anything at all.

Best go and speak to your MP about that. Trouble is no one did.

[PurpleGorilla]

Okay - I was wrong on Brexit

Stick the Greenland GDP graph over the UK one and tell me where the massive difference is.

Well Greenland left in 1985 and look to be doing OK...

Not much of a difference to their economic growth compared to ours.

So how come Sweden, Finland, and Austria had five years of flat/falling GDP when they joined the EU?

[The_Equalizer]

Well Greenland left in 1985 and look to be doing OK...

Not much of a difference to their economic growth compared to ours.

So how come Sweden, Finland, and Austria had five years of flat/falling GDP when they joined the EU?

Fancy popping Greece's data over that too?

[OwlHoot]

Non-EU immigration has been within the government's control, so there were clearly simpler solutions to immigration than Brexit.

Out of interest, why do you think the last Tory government made absolutely no effort to curb this non-EU migration, running to several hundred thousand people a year, despite their manifesto commitment to do so?

[PurpleGorilla]

Fancy popping Greece's data over that too?

[The_Equalizer]

Out of interest, why do you think the last Tory government made absolutely no effort to curb this non-EU migration, running to several hundred thousand people a year, despite their manifesto commitment to do so?

The tens of thousands figure was a bit of a cock-up, accidentally quoted by one minster and then became gospel if I’m not mistaken. Ironically, it is was a lot of people actually wanted.