David Davis will tell the European Union: you can't

[AtW]

There are none so blind as those who will not see. Yanis Varoufakis, you may remember him from the Greek debt crisis? Has recent experience negotiating with Angela Merkel and the EU. Your just some bloke on a chat forum, just a gentle reminder.

Yes, I remember very well how he fooked up negotiations and had to be fired.

[meridian]

We do need to get out from under the ECJ.

It can and does simply dictate laws which we have to implement with no say (according to some guy on R4 on Friday)

And that simply needs to stop.

Err, no it doesn't. It's a court, not a legislature.

The European Commission has the initiative to propose legislation. During the ordinary legislative procedure, the Council (which are ministers from member state governments) and the European Parliament (elected by citizens) can make amendments and must give their consent for laws to pass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

If you want a say in the laws that the EU propose to implement, just contact your local MEP representative. It's called "democracy".

[BlasterBates]

Err, no it doesn't. It's a court, not a legislature.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

If you want a say in the laws that the EU propose to implement, just contact your local MEP representative. It's called "democracy".

By not wanting to be under the jurisdiction is basically because the UK government wishes to flout the rules and behave like an untrustworthy "Banana Republic".

in that case bye bye financial services.

[PurpleGorilla]

By not wanting to be under the jurisdiction is basically because the UK government wishes to flout the rules and behave like an untrustworthy "Banana Republic".

in that case bye bye financial services.

So then we look at Asia, and Africa, and South America and all the other areas of the world who are growing and developing.

[original PM]

Err, no it doesn't. It's a court, not a legislature.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law

If you want a say in the laws that the EU propose to implement, just contact your local MEP representative. It's called "democracy".

Do not confuse the Court of Justice of the European Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_...European_Union with the ECJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Justice

[meridian]

By not wanting to be under the jurisdiction is basically because the UK government wishes to flout the rules and behave like an untrustworthy "Banana Republic".

in that case bye bye financial services.

I wouldn't go quite that far - the UK high/supreme courts are still seen as independent arbiters not subject to government coercion, we're not quite a banana republic yet! . The problem is one of jurisdiction and agreeing which courts any arbitration can be appealed to and which legislation takes precedence as primary law.

[AtW]

So then we look at Asia, and Africa, and South America and all the other areas of the world who are growing and developing.

Brilliant idea - let's sell them stuff like legal services where hourly rate is higher than annual wage there.

[meridian]

Do not confuse the Court of Justice of the European Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_...European_Union with the ECJ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Court_of_Justice

I'm not, but thank you for the links.

Neither of them "dictate laws which we have to implement with no say".

[PurpleGorilla]

Brilliant idea - let's sell them stuff like legal services where hourly rate is higher than annual wage there.

Follow the growth...

[darmstadt]

I'm not, but thank you for the links.

Neither of them "dictate laws which we have to implement with no say".

Yes they do..."Paragraph 4, Subsection 2 - Brexit Handbook"