Will Brexit be a success or failure?

[milanbenes]

Posters on here have been predicting that Austria, Italy, France etc etc. would be leaving the EU or the Euro, countries would be going bankrupt, end of the EU. All complete tosh of course and just goes to show its more finger in the air politics than judgement based on hard facts.

it's interesting, I've got friends from the former Hapsburg regions and they swear that the Tyrol region is one of the richest in Europe

And if the Italian/Austrian Tyrol is that rich (just look it up on google) then I can say all the way across Salzburg, Linz, Graz and up to Vienna are doing fine too, go downwards to Slovenia, Maribor, Ljubljana and they look fine too

of course go north from the Tyrol and you're in Bavaria, well we all know how well that region is going, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche

go south from the Tyrol and you have Italy's richest province

sorry for the ones who listen to the Daily Mail and Torygraph

Milan.

[billybiro]

All I will say, I'm not sure the Euro Dream, in the longer term, will stay afloat.

My mind still hasn't changed on that.

Whilst an independent UK is destined to march on to ever greater and greater things?

[BlasterBates]

Has anyone noticed that an argument about the success of Brexit ends up as a theoretical discussion about the potential collapse of the Euro. This is because Brexit can only viewed as a failure that is not as bad as the potential destruction of the Euro zone.

[The_Equalizer]

Has anyone noticed that an argument about the success of Brexit ends up as a theoretical discussion about the potential collapse of the Euro. This is because Brexit can only viewed as a failure that is not as bad as the potential destruction of the Euro zone.

It's more to do with whether we are in the centre of its collapse or just observer from the edges.

P.s. Am I suppsed to set-up a sockie for trolling?

[Mordac]

fer feck's sake lads, I know there's this self perpetuating feel good factor of knocking all of the other countries to make yourselves feel better in your collective inadequacy, but,

have any of you ever been to Italy, or are you going by what the Daily Mail and Torygraph tell you ?

I've driven across Italy, all I could see was:

. evidence of very strong seasonal tourism activities, winter season and summer season, even the ski resorts now have summer seasons because they put the mountain bikes on the ski lifts and cycle down the hills, I've heard that Livigno is busier in the summer than the winter !

ok, but winter and summer tourism will not feed the whole country, so what else is there ?

On my drive across the country I noticed,

. Italy has vast amounts of manufacturing, not just cars and trucks and ice cream machines, but look around you at all kinds of mechanical engineering and manufacturing items that come out of Italy, every city was surrounded by state of the art looking factories

and of course driving across the country, between the cities you have the countryside, and do they have countryside, their agriculture business is much bigger than ours, they have a longer season and a richer variety of crops to grow thanks to their weather and climate, fruit and veg (horticulture on a mega scale) are probably as big as agriculture

of course when an economy is founded on a strong base of manufacturing and agriculture, everything else will site nicely on top, services, retail, etc etc

To conclude, lads, don't believe everything you hear about Italy, because having been there many times, it looks to me as though they are doing just fine

Milan.

Try youth unemployment of 44%. Outside of the touristy bits, it's very bleak indeed.

Italy's youth unemployment just hit a new record high ? here's what's going wrong - Business Insider

[BlasterBates]

It's more to do with whether we are in the centre of its collapse or just observer from the edges.

P.s. Am I suppsed to set-up a sockie for trolling?

Who is the observer and who is doing the collapsing ?

[The_Equalizer]

Who is the observer and who is doing the collapsing ?

Very good. I'll get that sockie sorted.

[northernladyuk]

It's more to do with whether we are in the centre of its collapse or just observer from the edges.

P.s. Am I suppsed to set-up a sockie for trolling?

Have a bit more practice first.

[VectraMan]

It's more to do with whether we are in the centre of its collapse or just observer from the edges.

The irony is that Brexit is more likely to result in the UK joining the Euro, as it's a condition we may have to swallow when we rejoin the EU. And then we will be in the centre, rather than just being an observer as now.

[milanbenes]

The irony is that Brexit is more likely to result in the UK joining the Euro, as it's a condition we may have to swallow when we rejoin the EU. And then we will be in the centre, rather than just being an observer as now.

yes I have also reached the same conclusion,

having sat at the top table as a top influencer with some of the best conditions in the club and still insulting our fellow members, once we have left, if we ever want to rejoin they're going to clobber us with all sorts of join the euro and other such conditions and at which point England will already be like Argentina and we'll just have to accept whatever they offer

Milan.