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Simple solution to the Brexit problem - stay in Europe AND cancel Freedom of Movement

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    #21
    If you don't have a means to support yourself and you aren't married/have a long term partner who will support you, then you have to leave the country after 3 months for a period of time
    Not what it says in the EU rules SE. Article 7 only says you have to be employed or self employed, nowt about being able to support yourself without resort to benefits. Why those Big Issue Sellers get to stay here. If other countries do do what you said, maybe we are just obeying the rules too much.

    Thought I'd read a while ago that we could get rid of serious criminals. Not always the case it seems:
    https://www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-d...ime-committed/

    Just show why the EU is such crap really. Articles should have stated that all migrants should be self supporting without resort to long term benefits and any with a serious criminal record (as defined) have no right to remain. Stricter rules would have seen the EU viewed more favourably.
    bloggoth

    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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      #22
      Tony Blair tried to introduce ID cards as he clearly knew he had fecked up
      One so Blair's sensible policies. Don't see why there is such opposition to ID cards.
      bloggoth

      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
      John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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        #23
        Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
        Not what it says in the EU rules SE. Article 7 only says you have to be employed or self employed, nowt about being able to support yourself without resort to benefits. Why those Big Issue Sellers get to stay here. If other countries do do what you said, maybe we are just obeying the rules too much.
        Their benefit rules are different to the UK.

        In nearly all European countries if you don't pay in and aren't a resident for long enough you aren't entitled to benefits. So if you have no money you have no choice but to feck off to your home country.

        In the UK as long as you are looking for work you are entitled to unemployment benefit. They have clamped down on housing benefit here which has left landlords out of pocket.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #24
          The EU will be offering a transitional deal in the EEA so freedom of movement will be continuing indefinitely anyway, because it will take years to hammer out the final deal. In the meantime EU citizens have in any case stopped coming to the UK. Brexit is yesterday's story

          The story will be how can the UK attract enough workers from the EU, in particular nurses who are now not coming at all.
          I'm alright Jack

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            #25
            Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
            The EU will be offering a transitional deal in the EEA so freedom of movement will be continuing indefinitely anyway, because it will take years to hammer out the final deal. In the meantime EU citizens have in any case stopped coming to the UK. Brexit is yesterday's story

            The story will be how can the UK attract enough workers from the EU, in particular nurses who are now not coming at all.
            Don't get old or ill.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #26
              Their benefit rules are different to the UK
              Theirs seem a damn site more sensible. Somebody was telling me yesterday about the Swiss system:

              Social security in Switzerland – and claiming your benefits | About Switzerland | Expatica Switzerland

              Nice to have a government that would tighten up our benefits system. I don't thing Corbyn will be the man to rely on.
              bloggoth

              If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
              John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                #27
                A revamp of our benefits system in line with those of France etc. would help to solve the Calais migrant problem too. The mayor of Calais was not wrong.
                bloggoth

                If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                  #28
                  Remember though that this directive only applies to EU citizens, not non-EU of which there are more migrants in the UK than EU migrants....
                  Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                    Remember though that this directive only applies to EU citizens, not non-EU of which there are more migrants in the UK than EU migrants....
                    Now if only we had control of our borders to non-EU immigration, a manifesto promise to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands, and a strong and stable Home Secretary for the past 7 years to come up with some way of managing this.....

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                      Thought I'd read a while ago that we could get rid of serious criminals. Not always the case it seems:
                      https://www.freemovement.org.uk/eu-d...ime-committed/

                      Just show why the EU is such crap really. Articles should have stated that all migrants should be self supporting without resort to long term benefits and any with a serious criminal record (as defined) have no right to remain. Stricter rules would have seen the EU viewed more favourably.
                      that's not quite true, I have been on enough flights from Munich and Frankfurt and seen the Police putting criminals on the plane to send them back to their countries

                      Milan.

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