[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)

[sasguru]

Early start on the Brexit monologue I see. Meanwhile the pound is above 1.18 against the Euro.

Tell me when it's regained its pre referendum values and I'll be impressed.
The rate against the Euro is largely irrelevant, commodities are priced in USD.

[The_Equalizer]

Tell me when it's regained its pre referendum values and I'll be impressed.
The rate against the Euro is largely irrelevant, commodities are priced in USD.

I'll be more impressed when oil gets back to $110/barrel. That's the thing with your arguements, they are selective in their yardstick.

Anyway, how much of a punt are you putting on Sterling dropping when A50 is invoked?

[vetran]

Yep, there's a plentiful supply of non EU immigrants coming available shortly:

Foreign spouse income limit for immigration at court - BBC News

All thanks to the sovereign authority of the Supreme and High Courts. Incidentally, the High Court ruled on this back in 2013 and advised the then-home secretary to rewrite the rules correctly. I wonder who the Home Secretary was in 2013?.....

appears they agreed with the government again.

Minimum income rules stopping British citizens bringing foreign spouses to UK are lawful, says Supreme Court

Minimum income rules stopping British citizens bringing foreign spouses to UK are lawful, says Supreme Court

[sasguru]

I'll be more impressed when oil gets back to $110/barrel. That's the thing with your arguements, they are selective in their yardstick.

Anyway, how much of a punt are you putting on Sterling dropping when A50 is invoked?

Not much of a punt. There some remaing cash lying around (that's not in funds) that I may convert to USD. Not much risk in that.

[darmstadt]

How the tide has turned:

Donald Trump has described the European Union as “wonderful” and said he is “totally in favour of it”

...

“The EU, I’m totally in favour of it. I think it’s wonderful, if they’re happy. If they’re happy – I’m in favour of it,” he said.

Mind you, he is a complete and utter nutter

[darmstadt]

Putting party before people...

[darmstadt]

• The UK had sovereignty all along
• Sovereignty of Parliament does not mean sovereignty of the government
• Sovereignty of Parliament does not mean sovereignty of the PM
• You can’t passionately advocate the sovereignty of parliament and then complain when parliament has a debate
• We already had control of our borders
• After residing in the UK for 3 months, any citizen from any another EU country can be required to prove they have a job or have the financial means to support themselves. They can also be required to have private health insurance. If they don’t comply they can be told to leave. This is an EU law and most other EU countries use it. You haven’t heard about this EU law because our government can’t be arsed with the logistics
• Turkey was never going to join and 70 million Turks were never heading our way
• The NHS were never going to get £350M extra each week
• The bus was not a misunderstanding of the fine nuances of the English language. It was a lie
• We will have the same immigration of skilled workers because we need them
• We will have the same immigration of unskilled workers because we need them
• Turning our back on the world’s largest free-trade block will not make us better-off
• We already can trade with the rest of the world. They just have to pay import duty when they receive our goods and we have to pay import duty when we receive their goods.
• Unelected bureaucrats never did dictate EU laws. We elected MEP's
• You couldn't (and you still can't) name a single nasty EU law that has had a detrimental effect on the average UK citizen. The average citizen - not our political or industrial masters. I don’t care about bent bananas and I don’t care about 5p for a supermarket bag
• The CAP has given us surplus rather than shortage
• There are around 60,000 bureaucrats (civil servants) running the nuts & bolts of the European Union. Roughly the same amount as employed by the city of Birmingham
• We were never going to be forced to join an EU army
• We were told many times that we would still have access to the single market if we left. “They need us more than we need them”. “They want to sell us their motor-cars, their wine and cheese so they wouldn’t dare deny us access to the single market”. Now it appears that we won’t have access to the single market, the same people are telling us that they knew this all the time.
• The reason the markets didn’t crash after the vote was that Mark Carney found 250 billion quid down the back of the sofa and made it available to prop-up the financial sector
• A week is a long time in politics. 2 years is an eon. Someone will figure-out a way to stop this cluster-f**k from happening

[GB9]

• The UK had sovereignty all along
• Sovereignty of Parliament does not mean sovereignty of the government
• Sovereignty of Parliament does not mean sovereignty of the PM
• You can’t passionately advocate the sovereignty of parliament and then complain when parliament has a debate
• We already had control of our borders
• After residing in the UK for 3 months, any citizen from any another EU country can be required to prove they have a job or have the financial means to support themselves. They can also be required to have private health insurance. If they don’t comply they can be told to leave. This is an EU law and most other EU countries use it. You haven’t heard about this EU law because our government can’t be arsed with the logistics
• Turkey was never going to join and 70 million Turks were never heading our way
• The NHS were never going to get £350M extra each week
• The bus was not a misunderstanding of the fine nuances of the English language. It was a lie
• We will have the same immigration of skilled workers because we need them
• We will have the same immigration of unskilled workers because we need them
• Turning our back on the world’s largest free-trade block will not make us better-off
• We already can trade with the rest of the world. They just have to pay import duty when they receive our goods and we have to pay import duty when we receive their goods.
• Unelected bureaucrats never did dictate EU laws. We elected MEP's
• You couldn't (and you still can't) name a single nasty EU law that has had a detrimental effect on the average UK citizen. The average citizen - not our political or industrial masters. I don’t care about bent bananas and I don’t care about 5p for a supermarket bag
• The CAP has given us surplus rather than shortage
• There are around 60,000 bureaucrats (civil servants) running the nuts & bolts of the European Union. Roughly the same amount as employed by the city of Birmingham
• We were never going to be forced to join an EU army
• We were told many times that we would still have access to the single market if we left. “They need us more than we need them”. “They want to sell us their motor-cars, their wine and cheese so they wouldn’t dare deny us access to the single market”. Now it appears that we won’t have access to the single market, the same people are telling us that they knew this all the time.
• The reason the markets didn’t crash after the vote was that Mark Carney found 250 billion quid down the back of the sofa and made it available to prop-up the financial sector
• A week is a long time in politics. 2 years is an eon. Someone will figure-out a way to stop this cluster-f**k from happening

How long did you waste on all that bollox?

Just as an example, you say we can kick anyone from the eu out if they haven't got a job for 3 months. There are over 3.6 million eu people living in the UK. Say 0.5m didn't have a job after 3 mths. How on earth do you think anyone can round them up and get them to leave? What a joke.

And the BoE putting cash into the economy had no impact on the markets at all.

You really are deluded. You live in a complete fantasy in which you believe your glorious leader Merkel will look after you in the Fourth Reich.

Pathetic.

[scooterscot]

Just as an example, you say we can kick anyone from the eu out if they haven't got a job for 3 months. There are over 3.6 million eu people living in the UK. Say 0.5m didn't have a job after 3 mths. How on earth do you think anyone can round them up and get them to leave? What a joke.

You want British pensioners in Spain returned home further burdening the NHS?

You've not really thought this through, have you?

Immigration will not dramatically fall after Brexit, says Amber Rudd

Well duh

[scooterscot]

• A week is a long time in politics. 2 years is an eon. Someone will figure-out a way to stop this cluster-f**k from happening

Time for the House of Lords to sacrifice themselves. Repeal the vote into the infinity grass.

David Cameron, the worst PM in history. Exploded the national debt and divided the country for years. And that was after his mantra of repairing broken Britain.

Time to put an end to Oxford PPE graduates entering mainstream politics.