Brexit rebellion building in Parliament

[GB9]

Scotland did not ask for the chance to go it's own way. And neither is it seeking to. You left us after promising us in 2014 remaining with the UK was the best was to remain within the EU.

I'm not certain why the establish is trying to shed responsibility at a time when it is needed the most.

Scotland voted to stay within the UK, possibly expecting to stay in the EU. However, it turned out that the majority of those who voted within the UK as a whole want to leave.

Scotland as a nation clearly disagreed. That should be respected.

I see Scotland having a choice. It can stay in the UK or it can stay in the EU. It can't do both and needs to accept that.

I am saying Scotland should choose. Not the rest of us. I'm fully in to self determination. Not just for England but also any other country that wants it. England and Wales have made their decision and have to get on with it, whatever it looks like. I think Scotland should still have a choice if it wants one.

[dx4100]

How can we have a points based system, and join the EEA?

Someone clearly needs to sqaure that circle...

Chris Grayling saying there is a clear mandate to control immigration. Someone else who doesn't get how close it was and how there isn't a clear mandate for anything....

[Old Greg]

How can we have a points based system, and join the EEA?

We can't. But we can make some stern noises and agree some kind of emergency break.

[bobspud]

One of the main reasons i voted out was because I wanted to not have to care about what a bunch of seemingly untouchable people based 1000's of miles from where I live had to say about the way the I should act.

Nobody said we do not want to trade - that is just stupid and unless anyone has a genuine reason why not then lets continue under the current trade agreements - they must work for everyone or else surely the EU would not have allowed them - however if any of the countries in the EU wish to renegotiate a different trade deal with the UK then we should certainly talk to them to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Same for the movement of labour - I did not vote to stop 'foreigners coming into our country and taking our jobs' I voted to try and stem the movement of people who for whatever reason were unable to support themselves or integrate into UK society.

I think what this vote clearly showed is that the current champagne socialist Labour party are very very far out of touch with their supposed voters - the Labour party need to understand that they should actually be representing you white van man with a tattoo who likes a few beers and a kebab - but who also is happily married with 2 kids and is trying to do an honest job earning an honest living and is struggling because his home town is constantly having increased pressure put on it by the movement of people.

Those who eat mung bean quiche and drink moccachoccachino's who campaign for this but then go and live in their little cottage in the Cotswolds and so never see the impact of what they vote for to try and appease the sense of guilt they have for living off daddy's capitalist earned money need to understand that labour is not the party for them - they need to form their own party which campaigns for equal rights for everyone and screw the large corporations.

^ Give this person the PM's job ^

[scooterscot]

I have stated time and again that Scotland should be given a chance to go it's own way as it clearly voted differently to England and Wales. I thought you might agree with this!

Scotland did not ask for the chance to go it's own way. And neither is it seeking to. You left us after promising us in 2014 remaining with the UK was the best was to remain within the EU.

I'm not certain why the establish is trying to shed responsibility at a time when it is needed the most.

[Tasslehoff]

How can we have a points based system, and join the EEA?

[GB9]

Or least an increased illusion of it...

We haven't stopped being economically reliable on the EU and we won't.... We just now have no say over it and quite possibly

If we can retain freedom of movement I think that will be a good thing and will appease me. And the outters can have their illusion of self determination.

Fine, if that keeps everyone happy.

I don't believe we had any say inside at all though. We generally wanted something different to the other 27. I'm sure most of the EU is delighted to see us leave.

[bobspud]

His language is astounding. Did he get a visit from Mi5 over the weekend on queenies orders?

I think he's doing something that the remaining camp should take a lesson from.

Namely looking for the middle ground. He knows what he wants but he's now focusing on what will not tear the party and 50% of the country apart. I still think there is time to get further away from this initial stance but you don't negotiate from the widest margin you try and get a conciliatory position.

Of cource if Junkers tries to get silly, just to stem the tide of others wanting to flee it will turn out different.

But after all your moaning it might just be keep calm and carry on...

[original PM]

One of the main reasons i voted out was because I wanted to not have to care about what a bunch of seemingly untouchable people based 1000's of miles from where I live had to say about the way the I should act.

Nobody said we do not want to trade - that is just stupid and unless anyone has a genuine reason why not then lets continue under the current trade agreements - they must work for everyone or else surely the EU would not have allowed them - however if any of the countries in the EU wish to renegotiate a different trade deal with the UK then we should certainly talk to them to come to a mutually beneficial arrangement.

Same for the movement of labour - I did not vote to stop 'foreigners coming into our country and taking our jobs' I voted to try and stem the movement of people who for whatever reason were unable to support themselves or integrate into UK society.

I think what this vote clearly showed is that the current champagne socialist Labour party are very very far out of touch with their supposed voters - the Labour party need to understand that they should actually be representing you white van man with a tattoo who likes a few beers and a kebab - but who also is happily married with 2 kids and is trying to do an honest job earning an honest living and is struggling because his home town is constantly having increased pressure put on it by the movement of people.

Those who eat mung bean quiche and drink moccachoccachino's who campaign for this but then go and live in their little cottage in the Cotswolds and so never see the impact of what they vote for to try and appease the sense of guilt they have for living off daddy's capitalist earned money need to understand that labour is not the party for them - they need to form their own party which campaigns for equal rights for everyone and screw the large corporations.

Also Sturgeon - surely you head says no but your nuts say go?

[dx4100]

The main thing we will regain is sovereignty and self determination.

Or least an increased illusion of it...

We haven't stopped being economically reliable on the EU and we won't.... We just now have no say over it and quite possibly have sent the whole of the EU into a possible recession.

If we can retain freedom of movement I think that will be a good thing and will appease me. And the outters can have their illusion of self determination.