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The 24 Month Rule in a nutshell

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by lisacontractorumbrella View Post
    it was allowing the ones claimed under the retained contract but not the ones under the short terms contracts as they were considered to be permanent workplaces for the purposes of determining whether tax relief was allowable. But yes, you're right, the 24 month rule doesn't apply here
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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    Looking at it again, you're right. However it is debarring the site visit in those circumstances from allowing any expenses, so the 24 month rule wouldn't apply in the first place.
    It was allowing the ones claimed under the retained contract but not the ones under the short terms contracts as they were considered to be permanent workplaces for the purposes of determining whether tax relief was allowable. But yes, you're right, the 24 month rule doesn't apply here

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    You sure this is the right one Mal? There doesn't seem to be a reference to 24 month rule specifically
    Looking at it again, you're right. However it is debarring the site visit in those circumstances from allowing any expenses, so the 24 month rule wouldn't apply in the first place.

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    It was on the PCG forum. Can't reproduce the summary and subsequent comment obviously, but the judgement is here
    You sure this is the right one Mal? There doesn't seem to be a reference to 24 month rule specifically

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    But presumably visits to sites B and C would still have to exceed 40% of 24 months? Would be interested in link if you have it Mal
    It was on the PCG forum. Can't reproduce the summary and subsequent comment obviously, but the judgement is here

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by malvolio View Post
    This came up in a recent case (can't remember where offhand, will have a look later and stick up a link). Each visit to a different site was adjudged to be a separate contract and hence each was a unique (for which read permanent) workplace in the context of that contract. Ergo, no travel costs allowable. So not as clear cut as one might assume.
    But presumably visits to sites B and C would still have to exceed 40% of 24 months? Would be interested in link if you have it Mal

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  • malvolio
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    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    Sorry, site A is the relevant site - travel to B and C would be allowable
    This came up in a recent case (can't remember where offhand, will have a look later and stick up a link). Each visit to a different site was adjudged to be a separate contract and hence each was a unique (for which read permanent) workplace in the context of that contract. Ergo, no travel costs allowable. So not as clear cut as one might assume.

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by rl4engc View Post
    Yes but does that mean I cannot claim any travel to any of the 5 different sites? Or just not to Site A?

    So if they say "We need to you to work from Site B next week, then Site C for a fortnight after that, before returning to Site A. I should be able to claim 5 journeys to B and 10 to C yes? But none to A since that is my normal place of work in the eyes of HMRC?

    Thanks for the reply.
    Sorry, site A is the relevant site - travel to B and C would be allowable

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  • rl4engc
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    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    If, over a 24 month period, you spend more than 40% of your time at client site A then the 24 month rule will apply
    Yes but does that mean I cannot claim any travel to any of the 5 different sites? Or just not to Site A?

    So if they say "We need to you to work from Site B next week, then Site C for a fortnight after that, before returning to Site A. I should be able to claim 5 journeys to B and 10 to C yes? But none to A since that is my normal place of work in the eyes of HMRC?

    Thanks for the reply.

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