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Is it legal for a shareholder to work through my company?

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    Is it legal for a shareholder to work through my company?

    I have 100% A shares, my brother has 1% C shares in my company. My question is can he as a shareholder work through my company legally and issue invoices? Or does he need to become self employed? Or does he need to be employed by me?

    #2
    I think the question you want to be asking is how much trouble are you in with a family member as a shareholder and holding different classes of share in the LTD.

    I don't know anything about C shares but can you have 101% ownership??

    You have an accountant right?
    Last edited by northernladuk; 28 June 2013, 16:07.
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      #3
      It's your company that issues invoices, not any particular person. Your company can issue invoices to anyone that its representatives have done work for. The company can then chose how to remunerate people - they can have salary, dividends or a mix of the two. They can be employees (if they have salary) or just be shareholders (and get dividends).

      So yes, your brother can be paid by your company and the company can issue invoices for the work he carries out for clients.

      There is a whole different can of worms with the issues NLUK highlights above of course.
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        #4
        So what are C shares? The only definition I can find doesn't make sense for our situations..

        C shares
        An Investment Trust being a corporate legal entity, may issue C shares (or ‘conversion’ shares) which are a method of raising new funds without penalising existing shareholders. The new money raised is maintained as a discrete pool which is kept separate from the existing fund for a specified period and all the costs of investment are borne by those subscribing for the new shares. The holders of the 'C' shares are then offered new ordinary shares at the combined net asset value of the enlarged Trust.
        Last edited by northernladuk; 28 June 2013, 16:11.
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          #5
          As others have said, there are two different issues, (a) raising invoices for work done - other than vat threshold & liability implications, no real issue (b) paying the C shareholder (dividend? salary? both?).

          Alphabet shares can create issues, but I'm not unduly vexed in this circumstance.

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            #6
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            So what are C shares? The only definition I can find doesn't make sense for our situations..
            Bog standard alphabet shares. Once you have ordinary, ordinary A, Ordinary B, you move on to ordinary C - they are nothing special.

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              #7
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              You have an accountant right?
              I have it on good authority that they've mostly gone home for the weekend, other than the boss lady who is following shortly.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Jessica@WhiteFieldTax View Post
                I have it on good authority that they've mostly gone home for the weekend, other than the boss lady who is following shortly.
                Hi Jessica,

                I'm your client and I could not hold of your office to ask this question! But I'm glad you are here to answer. I thought everyone at Whitefiled has gone home

                BN

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Clare@InTouch View Post
                  It's your company that issues invoices, not any particular person. Your company can issue invoices to anyone that its representatives have done work for. The company can then chose how to remunerate people - they can have salary, dividends or a mix of the two. They can be employees (if they have salary) or just be shareholders (and get dividends).

                  So yes, your brother can be paid by your company and the company can issue invoices for the work he carries out for clients.

                  There is a whole different can of worms with the issues NLUK highlights above of course.
                  Thanks, that's a straightforward answer. Just what I was looking for! Thanks!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    I think the question you want to be asking is how much trouble are you in with a family member as a shareholder and holding different classes of share in the LTD.

                    I don't know anything about C shares but can you have 101% ownership??

                    You have an accountant right?
                    The reason to use different share classes because if I was putting him under the same share class as me I would have an obligation to pay him at the same date I pay myself a dividend. Eg if I had 99% A share and he 99% A shares then when I pay myself £990 I would need to pay him £10. With this different share class I can pay him "when I want". This info is from my previous accountant by the way. Who I had to leave because of bad advise on something else

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