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Is going limited worth it if you are inside IR35?

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    #31
    Originally posted by LandRover View Post
    Agree there are other factors, but a bit of a blow to having control in how work is carried out when they are telling you to come into office.

    In the end Yahoo loss, as i suspect some will go elsewhere
    You are confusing 'Where' and 'how'... It's not difficult.
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      #32
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      You are confusing 'Where' and 'how'... It's not difficult.
      Precisely. If everyone has to do iot, how is it a differentiator?
      Blog? What blog...?

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        #33
        Originally posted by gingerjedi View Post
        So being told not to come in for 2 weeks is good? It happened to me recently.
        No, apparently thats not good as it demonstrates control.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Chods View Post
          No, apparently thats not good as it demonstrates control.
          Jesus christ
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            #35
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            Jesus christ
            I'm just passing ont the opinion from a proffesional IR35 contract review

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              #36
              Originally posted by Chods View Post
              I'm just passing ont the opinion from a proffesional IR35 contract review
              I expect there is a different context or some more caveats than you are sharing with us. Permies can't be told not to come in and not get paid so this is a good pointer. It isn't control at all.
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                #37
                Originally posted by Chods View Post
                I'm just passing ont the opinion from a proffesional IR35 contract review
                I am not sure you have fully understood then. A contract of service (employee/employer) has to contain mutuality of obligation - there is an obligation on the part of the employer to offer work and an obligation on the part of the employee to accept and complete that work. If there is no obligation on the part of the client to offer you work then this shows a lack of MOO which is a positive IR35 pointer.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  I expect there is a different context or some more caveats than you are sharing with us. Permies can't be told not to come in and not get paid so this is a good pointer. It isn't control at all.
                  You decide when and how you do the work.

                  Take it up with Meades Accounting. They offer a contract review service for £300 and have a good reputation with the PCG. I hope they know what they are talking about.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Chods View Post
                    You decide when and how you do the work.

                    Take it up with Meades Accounting. They offer a contract review service for £300 and have a good reputation with the PCG. I hope they know what they are talking about.
                    Yes you do but that does not give you the right to ride roughshod over a client. You can still respect his working practices and methods without being inside. You most certainly cannot force him to pay you for doing sod all when he has no work for you.

                    Accountants giving IR35 advice always worries me. I don't ask QDOS accounting questions.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
                      I am not sure you have fully understood then. A contract of service (employee/employer) has to contain mutuality of obligation - there is an obligation on the part of the employer to offer work and an obligation on the part of the employee to accept and complete that work. If there is no obligation on the part of the client to offer you work then this shows a lack of MOO which is a positive IR35 pointer.
                      In regards to MOO its more about are you legally obliged to accept a contract extension, and vice versa. I used to think of it as you explained until I asked a professional.

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