Does the right of substitution have to be in the contract, if the contract clearly states that the company is providing the services and nowhere in the contract is a mention of specific employees who provide services?
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Does right of substitution have to be in the contract?
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Originally posted by electronicfur View PostDoes the right of substitution have to be in the contract, if the contract clearly states that the company is providing the services and nowhere in the contract is a mention of specific employees who provide services?
I would get this written as an explicit clause if I were you. Get one of the recommended professional reviewers to have a look at the contract if you are in doubt.
Also, read and understand the IR35 Tests.Free advice and opinions - refunds are available if you are not 100% satisfied. -
Nope there does not need to be a RoS in the contract... or MoO for that matter.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by electronicfur View PostDoes the right of substitution have to be in the contract, if the contract clearly states that the company is providing the services and nowhere in the contract is a mention of specific employees who provide services?
For a contractor where IR35 is potentially an issue having a clear substitution clause is always going to be preferable, even if the rest of the contract does not infer personal service. It's one of the first things HMRC would look for and having no such clause leaves the issue open to interpretation.Qdos Contractor - IR35 expertsComment
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Thanks for the answers.
Because some of my previous contracts haven't been as clear-cut business to business contracts and have stated a specific worker, I've always been used to insisting on substitution clauses.
But in this case its a genuine business to business contract I'm being asked to sign, which is why there is no no specific worker named in the contract.
So it seems odd to ask for a right of substitution, as it doesnt seem to make much sense in terms of this contract.
Cheers,
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Just because a specific worker is not named does not give you right to put anyone in as and when you choose it. There could be an implied RoS due to the lack of an individual name but you can bet your bottom dollar the client won't agree when you try test it. Contracts are not meant to be that ambiguous that you think you can do something and shovel it past the client due to wording.
Not having a named worker is one thing, swapping people in and out as you see fit is a totally different one.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Thanks to a very recent judgement, it is now confirmed that you do not need to have RoS explicitly stated in your contract. In fact you don't even have to be aware that you have the ability to send a substitute.
Creasey case confirms the value of an unfettered right to substitute :: Contractor UK
However, this case was lost by HMRC on the basis that ClientCo had accepted substitutes in the past. So if you don't have it in your contract, you will have to show compelling evidence that you would have been able to exercise RoS regardless of the lack of any clause.Comment
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Originally posted by centurian View PostThanks to a very recent judgement, it is now confirmed that you do not need to have RoS explicitly stated in your contract. In fact you don't even have to be aware that you have the ability to send a substitute.
Creasey case confirms the value of an unfettered right to substitute :: Contractor UK
However, this case was lost by HMRC on the basis that ClientCo had accepted substitutes in the past. So if you don't have it in your contract, you will have to show compelling evidence that you would have been able to exercise RoS regardless of the lack of any clause.Still InvoicingComment
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Originally posted by blacjac View PostHMRC had nothing to do with it, the case was lost by the contractor who was trying to claim employment rights.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by electronicfur View PostDoes the right of substitution have to be in the contract, if the contract clearly states that the company is providing the services and nowhere in the contract is a mention of specific employees who provide services?Comment
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