Weekend work? Not in contract

**Wanderer** · 10 October 2012, 22:15

Originally posted by dogzilla View Post

Do I just invoice them for the extra hours? Do you expect more money on a weekend?

You MUST arrange it in advance.

If the client wants you to work weekends then tell them you charge time and a half for extra hours / weekends and ask if they happy with that. If they agree then summarise you conversation in an email to the person who signs off your timesheets and you're good to go.

You could get the agency to do a contract variation to cover the weekend work or you could just make a deal with the client whereby you charge them for 1.5x the hours worked so that 8 hours worked is signed off as 12 hours at a weekend.

Whatever you do, make 100% sure that they understand what the deal is and confirm it all in writing. I would also get written confirmation of the exact number of extra hours/days to be worked.

**SueEllen** · 11 October 2012, 09:47

Originally posted by Wanderer View Post

You MUST arrange it in advance.

If the client wants you to work weekends then tell them you charge time and a half for extra hours / weekends and ask if they happy with that. If they agree then summarise you conversation in an email to the person who signs off your timesheets and you're good to go.

You could get the agency to do a contract variation to cover the weekend work or you could just make a deal with the client whereby you charge them for 1.5x the hours worked so that 8 hours worked is signed off as 12 hours at a weekend.

Whatever you do, make 100% sure that they understand what the deal is and confirm it all in writing. I would also get written confirmation of the exact number of extra hours/days to be worked.

WHS

If the client doesn't want to pay you AND the agency for the extra work they require then don't do the work regardless how much they hint.

The client doesn't do things for free and neither should you - remember you are both businesses.

**northernladuk** · 11 October 2012, 10:09

SE's point is very valid, you are in business but that means that time and a half isn't the be all and end all. I personally hate that term and just slapping it on when someone mentions weekend is not being a business IMO, that is being a permie.

Consider your situation and what you are willing to do. I have done a number of different things in the past. At the beginning I was just happy to be billing an extra day just charged day rate, I have taken time in lieu which suited me perfectly at the time (make sure you have a very good relationship with your client manager though!!) and I have done it for £100 on the day rate. I have never just told him time and half though. All the other methods suited me at the time so I took them happily.

Remember money isn't the only incentive open to you and also your client has a different budgeting system for contractors to permies so may actually be a difficult option.

Look at your situation, see what suits you and your situation and negotiate.

**tractor** · 11 October 2012, 10:27

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I always agree same day rate, no premium or lieu time. Just make sure you take any accrued lieu time before the contract ends

No point in killing the goose etc.

**kingcook** · 11 October 2012, 10:41

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

SE's point is very valid, you are in business but that means that time and a half isn't the be all and end all. I personally hate that term and just slapping it on when someone mentions weekend is not being a business IMO, that is being a permie.

Consider your situation and what you are willing to do. I have done a number of different things in the past. At the beginning I was just happy to be billing an extra day just charged day rate, I have taken time in lieu which suited me perfectly at the time (make sure you have a very good relationship with your client manager though!!) and I have done it for £100 on the day rate. I have never just told him time and half though. All the other methods suited me at the time so I took them happily.

WNLUKS.

"Time and half" is very permie. I'd definately add some amount onto the day rate though. (Yes, it's time for the tradesman analogy...) If you called out a plumber on a Sunday or bank holiday, he'd probably charge a premium.

I like to spend weekend with family, and if someone wants to take me away from that it has to be worth it.

**slogger** · 11 October 2012, 11:35

Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

SE's point is very valid, you are in business but that means that time and a half isn't the be all and end all. I personally hate that term and just slapping it on when someone mentions weekend is not being a business IMO, that is being a permie.

Consider your situation and what you are willing to do. I have done a number of different things in the past. At the beginning I was just happy to be billing an extra day just charged day rate, I have taken time in lieu which suited me perfectly at the time (make sure you have a very good relationship with your client manager though!!) and I have done it for £100 on the day rate. I have never just told him time and half though. All the other methods suited me at the time so I took them happily.

Remember money isn't the only incentive open to you and also your client has a different budgeting system for contractors to permies so may actually be a difficult option.

Look at your situation, see what suits you and your situation and negotiate.

good point - however we shouldnt confuse who the business is here- its our ltd companies. its our company thats requesting extra money to put a consultant in over the weekends . not us as individuals :-)
the individual may not even get paid for that day - however at end of year/month whatever there may be extra profits for the shareholders to take

**kingcook** · 11 October 2012, 12:08

Originally posted by slogger View Post

good point - however we shouldnt confuse who the business is here- its our ltd companies. its our company thats requesting extra money to put a consultant in over the weekends . not us as individuals :-)
the individual may not even get paid for that day - however at end of year/month whatever there may be extra profits for the shareholders to take

This is true, but you're going to get some funny looks saying something like, "I'll need to speak to my managing director about this"

**slogger** · 11 October 2012, 12:30

Originally posted by kingcook View Post

This is true, but you're going some funny looks saying something like, "I'll need to speak to my managing director about this"

lol - helps bein schizo :-)

**Software** · 11 October 2012, 19:31

Even in my contract nothing was specified about Weekend work. But i am charging them a full day rate, even if i work for 1 hour.

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I am contracting for per day rate. But in your case you need to agree with the client about their flexibility. Discuss with client they will surely come up with some solution.

Weekend work? Not in contract