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No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

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    HMRC misleading Gauke?

    This was in a written response from Gauke to a cross party letter from MPs.



    First we had Jane Kennedy with 2000.
    Then we had HMRC in evidence to the High Court with 2500, which they expected to go up.
    Then Stephen Timms quoted 3000.

    Now it's 1900, and over one-third of trusts never used.

    Me thinks someone is telling porkies.
    Last edited by DonkeyRhubarb; 12 July 2012, 11:54.

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      Originally posted by Guttersnipe View Post
      Have just fought off one groundless enquiry from HMRC so can donate some cash towards this particular groundless assault on the law-abiding by the actively anti-democratic.

      They tried to up my stamp duty from 1% to 3%....
      I explained why that wasn't the case.
      They said, tough luck.
      The same explanation was then given to them on an expensive lawyer's headed paper with the request that we sort this out to save everyone "the expense and embarrassment of a tribunal."
      They said, "ah, you're right."

      So, they've spent probably a couple of thousand pounds of tax-payers money and at least a thousand pounds of my money trying to recover £8k to which they were quite clearly not entitled. Or, put another way, tried it on with a member of the public they expected to merely pay up for fear of the mighty HMRC. This is becoming their standard modus: to how many people are they doing this?

      Utter, utter Canutes.
      I would claim it as an expense on your next tax return - it was after all wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred. However, you should perhaps seek compensation first. It might soften the blow.
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      "Tax evasion is easy: it involves breaking the law. By tax avoidance OECD means unacceptable avoidance ... This can be contrasted with acceptable tax planning. What is critical is transparency" - Donald Johnston, Secretary-General, OECD

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        Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
        This was in a written response from Gauke to a cross party letter from MPs.



        First we had Jane Kennedy with 2000.
        Then we had HMRC in evidence to the High Court with 2500, which they expected to go up.
        Then Stephen Timms quoted 3000.

        Now it's 1900, and over one-third of trusts never used.

        Me thinks someone is telling porkies.
        So, if over 1,000 trusts were set up (which would have required a settlement of £1,000 each) why were they not used? Seems to me like there is a gaping hole in the number of enquiries sent out and that they did not open as many as they should have and are now deliberately covering up the fact and in so doing deliberately misleading Parliament.

        http://conservativehome.blogs.com/pl...gauke-mp-.html
        What a hypocrite!
        Last edited by Emigre; 12 July 2012, 12:48.
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        "Tax evasion is easy: it involves breaking the law. By tax avoidance OECD means unacceptable avoidance ... This can be contrasted with acceptable tax planning. What is critical is transparency" - Donald Johnston, Secretary-General, OECD

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          Originally posted by Emigre View Post
          So, if over 1,000 trusts were set up (which would have required a settlement of £1,000 each) why were they not used? Seems to me like there is a gaping hole in the number of enquiries sent out and that they did not open as many as they should have and are now deliberately covering up the fact and in so doing deliberately misleading Parliament.

          Is that still treasonable?
          I trust our scheme providers know the true figures, how many set up, how many used, and how many under investigation, .... and the GAP !!
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            Originally posted by moira under the stairs View Post
            I trust our scheme providers know the true figures, how many set up, how many used, and how many under investigation, .... and the GAP !!
            As the insurance dog would say "Oh, Yes".
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            "Tax evasion is easy: it involves breaking the law. By tax avoidance OECD means unacceptable avoidance ... This can be contrasted with acceptable tax planning. What is critical is transparency" - Donald Johnston, Secretary-General, OECD

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              Originally posted by BS81 View Post
              Thanks I don't know anyone who has received them but thought it is a bit odd that only some have received them when HMRC are supposed to treat everyone equally. That's obviously not the case if they are amending some returns (including mine) while accepting others with no amendments.
              hahahaha

              Its nice for someone to bring some light relief to this thread!

              We have been very clearly picked on. And treated dreadfully. It is now very personal between us and a certain person at HMRC who has way more influence than he should.

              When I got called by the police about threats made in an earlier thread I was informed it was not personal. I laughed and disagreed.

              Its personal and its winner take all.

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                Originally posted by SantaClaus View Post
                Check out the NoToRetroTax YouTube channel.

                First video uploaded:



                Let's get these videos going viral. Please tweet and post on social media sites!
                I must say I don't laugh much when it comes to anything related to S58, but this was just brilliant. Think I'll send it to my MP too although I'm sure I'm on his blocked list.

                I've shared on FB and Twitter.

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                  Originally posted by moira under the stairs View Post
                  I trust our scheme providers know the true figures, how many set up, how many used, and how many under investigation, .... and the GAP !!
                  Do we even know how many scheme providers there were for certain? I bet montp have no idea how many are affected in their scheme for certain! For a start some might have submitted their own tax return.

                  Though I would trust montp to be more accurate than HMRC.

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                    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                    Do we even know how many scheme providers there were for certain? I bet montp have no idea how many are affected in their scheme for certain! For a start some might have submitted their own tax return.

                    Though I would trust montp to be more accurate than HMRC.
                    That would be highly unlikely .....
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                      Originally posted by nevergiveup View Post
                      I must say I don't laugh much when it comes to anything related to S58, but this was just brilliant. Think I'll send it to my MP too although I'm sure I'm on his blocked list.

                      I've shared on FB and Twitter.
                      Thanks nevergiveup.
                      'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
                      Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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