Expenses when working away from home Mon-Fri staying overnight

[dynamicsaxcontractor]

No it isn't and it's not whether something is 'right in your eyes' there are rules!!!!

As a company director I have told my employee (myself) to try to keep the expenses down and by buying it cheaper in a supermarket I save money for the company who then make more profit and will pay more corporation tax.... Not even the revenue can be so stupid that they would question a tenner at tesco at the same time as they let a three course meal at the hotel restaurant for fifty quid go through.

[malvolio]

No, we're having a head twitch over the latest example of someone who professes to have read the rules but who clearly doesn't understand what they mean. And then continues to argue a lost cause. You're nothing special, we get one roughly every two months.

It's not like we care if you get done for evasion, we're only trying to help. If you don't want to be helped, or if you only see YourCo as a way to cheat money out of the taxation system, then you carry on. I'm out of this thread. - after all, after 15 years contracting, what do I know about anything...

[Guest22]

No, we're having a head twitch over the latest example of someone who professes to have read the rules but who clearly doesn't understand what they mean. And then continues to argue a lost cause. You're nothing special, we get one roughly every two months.

It's not like we care if you get done for evasion, we're only trying to help. If you don't want to be helped, or if you only see YourCo as a way to cheat money out of the taxation system, then you carry on. I'm out of this thread. - after all, after 15 years contracting, what do I know about anything...

Clearly nothing. Take some Prozac, sounds like you need some in your old age, especially as you keep saying 'we'. Becoming schizophrenic, too! As I really hope you're not defending yourself by speaking for everyone on here as if to assume they're all on your side... as that would be really arrogant and obnoxious, wouldn't it? Want some tissues for the froth?

You might get one of me every two months, but there's one of you born every minute.

[stek]

Clearly nothing. Take some Prozac, sounds like you need some in your old age, especially as you keep saying 'we'. Becoming schizophrenic, too! As I really hope you're not defending yourself by speaking for everyone on here as if to assume they're all on your side... as that would be really arrogant and obnoxious, wouldn't it? Want some tissues for the froth?

You might get one of me every two months, but there's one of you born every minute.

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[Clare@InTouch]

PS: I can see everyone is having a little nervous head twitch with froth coming out of their mouths and reaching for the razor blades over the idea of me taking my suit to the drycleaners. But, although it may seem obvious to you, it isn't to me, and there is a hell of a lot of ambiguity on this forum with most things in this area. If I didn't go to work, I wouldn't wear a suit; therefore, getting it drycleaned is costing me money I would not otherwise spend if it were not for the business. I don't see how this was an "obvious p*sstake", but more a reasonable query.

HMRC's view is that it's not solely business related. You're not wearing a suit because of your work, but because the alternative is to work naked. It's therefore dual purpose, and claiming it would result in a benefit in kind.

And before you say it, someone has tried to argue that they would indeed be happy to work naked (a female newsreader I believe), and HMRC rejected it.

[ASB]

HMRC's view is that it's not solely business related. You're not wearing a suit because of your work, but because the alternative is to work naked. It's therefore dual purpose, and claiming it would result in a benefit in kind.

And before you say it, someone has tried to argue that they would indeed be happy to work naked (a female newsreader I believe), and HMRC rejected it.

I believe the actuality was a barrister and the attire in question was a gown and wig for court use. It is somewhat in the realms of folklore though.

[Guest22]

HMRC's view is that it's not solely business related. You're not wearing a suit because of your work, but because the alternative is to work naked. It's therefore dual purpose, and claiming it would result in a benefit in kind.

And before you say it, someone has tried to argue that they would indeed be happy to work naked (a female newsreader I believe), and HMRC rejected it.

Ha ha! I'm sure many viewers would be happy, too. The HMRC investigator must've been female at the time. However, if I were not at work, I would wear clothes that did not require drycleaning, so this is also why I raised the question. I read the story about a barrister trying to claim for their court gown and it was rejected on similar grounds; but, that was because she was claiming for the item itself, not the cleaning of it. So, I wanted to be doubly sure (I already asked about the purchasing of suits in a previous thread).

[ASB]

As a company director I have told my employee (myself) to try to keep the expenses down and by buying it cheaper in a supermarket I save money for the company who then make more profit and will pay more corporation tax.... Not even the revenue can be so stupid that they would question a tenner at tesco at the same time as they let a three course meal at the hotel restaurant for fifty quid go through.

You've obviously never had a serious compliance visit have you?

There is adequate case law for the example you state to show it's non claimable. Whether or not something is taxable becomes part of the equation of whether it is cheaper or not.

[oversteer]

I did work somewhere that had an expenses policy that allowed dry cleaning/laundry in certain circumstances, citing that unforeseen circumstances (flight delays, perhaps) could mean it was allowable.

As always, if it's not obviously necessary, imagine yourself being sat there with a HMRC inspector leafing through your expense claims, and think what they'd make of your story..

[oscarose]

So, I wanted to be doubly sure (I already asked about the purchasing of suits in a previous thread).

Where did you buy your suit from?