HMRC now accept 'smartphones' qualify as 'mobile phones'

[ronanm]

It seems you have already decided to ignore the advice of every accountant who has commented on this thread (and have agreed with me), so it begs the question on why did you bother to ask for advice in the first place.

I will repeat one more time, the claiming for a mobile phone/smart phone is quite clear and you can claim provided that you follow the guidance I posted earlier.

I also posted the link to the HMRC site that stated this position. There is no problem with making personal calls.

I appreciate that you can ask three accountants and get three different opinions, however this is not the case here.

I could understand if your view was that the tax savings was not worth the hassle, but you cannot say that the tax savings are not available, they are.


Alan

Quite the contrary - I didn't ignore your advice Alan. I went to my accountant and presented him with your advice. He disagreed. Oh, I give up!!

[SueEllen]

Quite the contrary - I didn't ignore your advice Alan. I went to my accountant and presented him with your advice. He disagreed. Oh, I give up!!

Time for you to change accountants.

If it's definitely on the HMRC website then he's not keeping up to date.

BTW it's not hard to change accountants.

[escapeUK]

Time for you to change accountants.

If it's definitely on the HMRC website then he's not keeping up to date.

BTW it's not hard to change accountants.

Its not worth changing accountants to save the tax element of a mobile phone contract.

[Waldorf]

Its not worth changing accountants to save the tax element of a mobile phone contract.

No, but as Nixon's said, if he doesn't know about this, what else is he unaware of?

[Wanderer]

No, but as Nixon's said, if he doesn't know about this, what else is he unaware of?

Indeed. And then there is the matter of refusing to change their advice even when presented with the facts from HMRC's own guidance.

[mudskipper]

HMRC have now accepted that a smart phone can receive the tax treatment of a mobile phone.

So basically provided that your company provides you with just one phone, that the contract is in the company name and that the monthly payments are made from the company bank account, then HMRC will accept this with no extra tax liability on either the employer or the employee.

HM Revenue & Customs: Revenue & Customs Brief 02/12

P11D guidance from SJD for the last tax year:

A computer provided after 6 April 2006 is potentially chargeable (Note that PDAs & smartphones
[Blackberry, iPhone etc] are classified as computers not mobile phones).

(my bolding)

This is incorrect now isn't it?

[Waldorf]

Yes, this is now incorrect.

HMRC now allow smartphones

[mudskipper]

Bit disappointed the SJD are sending incorrect advice then. They've also neglected to tell me about the increase in home office allowance. I pay an accountant so I don't have to keep up with the minutae of tax law myself...

[northernladuk]

Bit disappointed the SJD are sending incorrect advice then. They've also neglected to tell me about the increase in home office allowance. I pay an accountant so I don't have to keep up with the minutae of tax law myself...

When they sent the advice last year it wasn't incorrect surely? It was correct at the time of sending but changed in Feb. Granted I haven't seen the new info yet. Just a question though, does anyone NOT put their smartphones through the books? I get what you mean about not being told though.

Interesting point about keeping up with tax law. I had a previous one man local outfit who failed in even the basics of doing my accounts so moving to the big guys was a breath of fresh air. Due this though I have never expected my accountant do do this for me. Guidance yes but I have always assumed it is part of my duties to question everything to get the best options. Maybe I am incorrect to have done this and should be expecting the accountants to do this.

I would be interested to know how many other people rely on their accountants soley to manage this and what are their experiences in their accountant doing this? Have I been letting them get away with it?

[Danielsjdaccountancy]

Bit disappointed the SJD are sending incorrect advice then. They've also neglected to tell me about the increase in home office allowance. I pay an accountant so I don't have to keep up with the minutae of tax law myself...

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