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Accountant stated my PC Purchase cannot have VAT reimbursed on Flat Rate VAT scheme..

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    #31
    Originally posted by prozak View Post
    c'mon.
    no one "needs" a solid state drive I don't care what you are doing.
    Who defines what I need? I'm pretty sure that any decent IT contractor could justify it and understand the benefits of having SSD if necessary to HMRC.

    (And you really want an Exalytics machine if you want real performance for analytics )

    Originally posted by Pondlife View Post
    This is about claiming back for items over 2K when on FRVS. Which should be allowed.

    If the accountant thinks its's a dodgy purchase (ie TVs) then it wouldn't be allowable as a (wholly)business expense anyway.
    WHS. Assuming that it's a genuine purchase, then it should be allowed - the question is why does the accountant not think that it's allowed?

    Either (a) the accountant doesn't think it's a capital expense; (b) the accountant doesn't know the rules; or (c) the accountant doesn't think it's allowable anyway.
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      #32
      Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post

      (And you really want an Exalytics machine if you want real performance for analytics )
      uh huh... sure you do.

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        #33
        Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post

        WHS. Assuming that it's a genuine purchase, then it should be allowed - the question is why does the accountant not think that it's allowed?

        Either (a) the accountant doesn't think it's a capital expense; (b) the accountant doesn't know the rules; or (c) the accountant doesn't think it's allowable anyway.
        Maybe the accountant knows that this is excessive for requirements just as the OP has already admitted?

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          #34
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          Maybe the accountant knows that this is excessive for requirements just as the OP has already admitted?
          But where does excessive stop it being claimable? (serious question).

          Surely if the business bought it the text is "wholly and exclusively". It is only if it is being expensed and reclaimed that "wholly necessarily and exclusively" applies.

          Surely there is a reasonable argument (would it sway HMIT?) that even though it is arguable "over the top" provided it is only used for business (or such personal use as occurs meets the defined rules by HMRC) then it passes wholly and exclusively.

          cf. visiting "posh client co" which has very expensive office furniture rather than a two bob ikea table. Does this fail because it is not "necessary".

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            #35
            A bit like my full carbon company provided cycle to work bicycle.....
            I'm sure I could have spent less than £2K and still get to work in one piece.
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              #36
              Originally posted by prozak View Post
              c'mon.
              no one "needs" a solid state drive I don't care what you are doing.
              Nobody needs a better CPU than a P4 or more than 1GB RAM on that logic. As a skilled developer, I want a decent set of tools. Just like how a builder will invest in decent tools costing much more than a casual DIYer
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                #37
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Maybe the accountant knows that this is excessive for requirements just as the OP has already admitted?
                Originally posted by ASB View Post
                But where does excessive stop it being claimable? (serious question).

                Surely if the business bought it the text is "wholly and exclusively". It is only if it is being expensed and reclaimed that "wholly necessarily and exclusively" applies.

                Surely there is a reasonable argument (would it sway HMIT?) that even though it is arguable "over the top" provided it is only used for business (or such personal use as occurs meets the defined rules by HMRC) then it passes wholly and exclusively.

                cf. visiting "posh client co" which has very expensive office furniture rather than a two bob ikea table. Does this fail because it is not "necessary".
                Exactly - some employers boast about Aeron chairs, top-spec PCs with dual 30" monitors, etc.

                Hell even a MacBook Pro is approaching £2k, I doubt HMRC would tell you that using Apple was inappropriate
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ASB View Post
                  But where does excessive stop it being claimable? (serious question).

                  Surely if the business bought it the text is "wholly and exclusively". It is only if it is being expensed and reclaimed that "wholly necessarily and exclusively" applies.

                  Surely there is a reasonable argument (would it sway HMIT?) that even though it is arguable "over the top" provided it is only used for business (or such personal use as occurs meets the defined rules by HMRC) then it passes wholly and exclusively.

                  cf. visiting "posh client co" which has very expensive office furniture rather than a two bob ikea table. Does this fail because it is not "necessary".
                  This is the bottom line really and also how much effort will the HMRC put in to quantifying it. I expect the reality of the situation is they won't question it and if they do a simple bit of technical befuddling will do the job.

                  The only real sanity checks are the person claiming depending on his risk aversion and the accountant to make make sure the OP knows what he is doing. Past that I can't see how HMRC will care tbh.

                  Doesn't answer question why the accountant wouldn't accept it but the OP doesn't seem to have spoken to him to ask him why not yet.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                    Doesn't answer question why the accountant wouldn't accept it but the OP doesn't seem to have spoken to him to ask him why not yet.
                    Next thing you know, you'll be implying that the OP is a troll
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                      #40
                      How many of you (including the OP) take work out of your customers environment to work on it at home where you require the high spec puter?

                      If you don't, this is a pretty easy thing for HMRC to knock back I reckon.

                      You may very well claim that you require alien technnology to do your super dooper programming - but if HMRC can easily prove you don't do it then do you have a leg to stand on?

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