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    Buying a car for your family through the company

    We have had questions about buying car's through the company and even though I can't remember the numbers it tends to fall on it's face due to BiK so we drop the issue. One thing I can't remember being asked is about buying your family a car through the company. There is a very interesting article on the BBC website about it which seems to indicate it is acceptable to buy your daughter a car for Uni, pay minimal BiK on it due to low emissions but save Corp tax on it which sounds a gem of a policy.

    Can our resident clever and lovely accountants comment please.

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    BBC News - Buying a car with the taxman's help

    Buying a car for a family member is often a necessity, and with recent rises in VAT an expensive one.

    There are however several little known options that can ease the pain on your pocket (and the environment), with the help of none other than the taxman.

    When buying a new car, the purchase options available to you are many.

    You can opt for lease purchase, hire purchase, contract hire or outright purchase, and the overall cost can vary significantly depending on your choice.

    With the government now basing tax charges solely on CO2 emissions, a more eco-friendly car will greatly reduce the overall cost, whoever you are.

    But if you own your own company, the benefits can be even greater.

    Benefit-in-kind

    There are hundreds of thousands of privately-owned companies in the UK.

    If you own one of them, you can use the current tax rules to your advantage perfectly legitimately.

    Consider the following scenario. Your 18-year-old daughter is off to university, and you want to get her a £10,000 car so that she can visit home.

    You have two options: pay for it personally or get your company to buy it.

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    The cash that you pay is the tax for receiving a benefit-in-kind”
    End Quote If it is bought via the company, then in the normal course of events you will be taxed on what is called the benefit-in-kind that you are receiving.

    A company car with no CO2 emissions - such as an electric car - accrues no benefit-in-kind tax charge at all.

    As emissions rise, so does the value of the taxable benefit, on a scale set by the Revenue.

    So cars with emissions of up to 75g per km result in an annual taxable benefit of only 5% of the list price of the car when new.

    Emissions between 76g and 120g per km will result in a taxable benefit of 10%.

    And those between 121g and 130g are deemed to produce a benefit worth 15% of the list price when new.

    After that, there is an additional 1% rise in the taxable benefit for each 5g of CO2 and a further 3% if the car is diesel.

    The cash cost

    So if you are a 40% taxpayer - and company owner - the true cash cost to you of supplying your daughter with a £10,000 car, with emissions between 121g and 130g, will be only £600 (£10,000 x 15% x 40%) per annum.

    Remember, the car has been bought by the company and the cash that you pay is the tax for receiving a benefit-in-kind.

    This charge covers all expenses paid by the company, other than fuel, and specifically includes inexperienced driver motor insurance for your 18-year-old, which is also paid by the company.

    The cost of supplying the car in the lower emissions brackets mentioned previously would be nil, £200 per year and £400 per year respectively.

    Meanwhile, your company will be able to claim full corporation tax relief for it too, making the deal even sweeter.

    Husbands and wives

    Those in a sole trader business or partnership also have options open to them.

    Continue reading the main story

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    There are ways of managing your travel costs”
    End Quote Family members often help out with the running of the business.

    If they do, providing them with a low-emission car on business expenses can prove very economical.

    Let us suppose a wife is receiving a modest salary of £5,000, and her husband - a sole trader or partner - chooses to buy her a car.

    If the wife's remuneration package, including the car benefit, is under the lower limit of £8,500 per year she remains outside the scope of benefit-in-kind taxation.

    As the husband is a partner or sole trader - rather than a director or employee - he cannot be taxed either, making his wife's car completely tax free.

    These are common situations, and show that even as rail fares and fuel costs go up again, there are ways of managing your travel costs.
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    If it so happens that the car is provided to somebody who is not a directory and has income (including the BIK) of less than £8,500 then there is no BIK payable.

    However one issue is "whos's car is it". HMIT does not like to see company cars which do not attract benefit tax and may well then seek to claim it is a car of the director and tax accordingly.

    Certainly this was their approach in my investigation some years ago. However, with the accountants help we refused to accept this view. HMIT wouldn't budge but we did eventually offer a token (can't remember how much I think it was about 10% of what they were seeking). After some further negotiation this was eventually accepted.

    Certainly there can be benefits in providing vehicles through company. This is particularly true where the vehicle is expensive to maintain and insure.

    Of course IANAA

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      #3
      BIK's are based on benefits to employees. Is the daughter an employee, I think not.

      I couldn't see the revenue approving this especially for a one man band Ltd company.
      http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dan-moss/18/18/105

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        #4
        Originally posted by Danielsjdaccountancy View Post
        BIK's are based on benefits to employees. Is the daughter an employee, I think not.

        I couldn't see the revenue approving this especially for a one man band Ltd company.
        Maybe better to have the director/employee take the hit on the BIK and give the daughter or son the car to use, son / daughter might quite a little 'green' run around car, for next to nothing !!!

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          #5
          Originally posted by Danielsjdaccountancy View Post
          BIK's are based on benefits to employees. Is the daughter an employee, I think not.

          I couldn't see the revenue approving this especially for a one man band Ltd company.
          Well this is what I would have though but the article suggests that you can. Why have a method you can use that you then don't approve of? I am assuming the guy writing it is a) correct and b) has not omitted something pertinent to our situations. Both of which are pretty dangerous assumptions.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Robot View Post
            Maybe better to have the director/employee take the hit on the BIK and give the daughter or son the car to use, son / daughter might quite a little 'green' run around car, for next to nothing !!!
            But we are then back to the arguments about losing mileage allowance and add BiK which then makes it not worth doing.. I don't have the sums which I would be interested to see. Everytime this comes up on here and from my own accountant, it was just written off without going in to detail. I assume many contractors look at this option and the fact we don't all do it means it isn't worth it.
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              #7
              Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
              But we are then back to the arguments about losing mileage allowance and add BiK which then makes it not worth doing.. I don't have the sums which I would be interested to see. Everytime this comes up on here and from my own accountant, it was just written off without going in to detail. I assume many contractors look at this option and the fact we don't all do it means it isn't worth it.
              These are small green; cheap to buy (new) and run cars, so the BIK is low anyway. I suppose the point is the car is used for your son or daughter to drive, while you still claim business mileage on the gas-guzzler. It is the cheapest way to give your son / daughter their first car.

              This is the way I read into it.

              Not sure this is legal but ...

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                #8
                Originally posted by Robot View Post
                These are small green; cheap to buy (new) and run cars, so the BIK is low anyway. I suppose the point is the car is used for your son or daughter to drive, while you still claim business mileage on the gas-guzzler. It is the cheapest way to give your son / daughter their first car.

                This is the way I read into it.

                Not sure this is legal but ...
                Yeah but that is what Daniel is saying won't fly, buying a car through your company for a non employee
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                  #9
                  Search "Can I give my spouse a company car with no ‘benefit in kind’ due?" on Google.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by contractoralan View Post
                    Search "Can I give my spouse a company car with no ‘benefit in kind’ due?" on Google.
                    But this brings back a load of information related to buying a car for a spouse that is employed by the company. The article specifically gives the example of giving the car to someone that isn't employed. As Daniel pointed out there is no BiK to a non employee so the search doesn't deliver.
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