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BN66 - Court of Appeal and beyond

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    Originally posted by Dulakipper View Post
    Maybe just the opinions of the folks I met with & not KPMG as a whole - hope so.........
    So just who were they advising to pay up then ? You and who else are their clients that they are advising so enthusiastically ? And all this was stated in how long a meeting ?

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      Originally posted by Dulakipper View Post
      Maybe just the opinions of the folks I met with & not KPMG as a whole - hope so.........
      Steed's main point of contact in KPMG has the initials MW. Was this who you met?

      I have heard from others saying that KPMG do appear to be backpeddling.

      I wonder if they've been leaned on by HMRC. I bet they do a lot of work for the Government depts.

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        Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
        Any replies will be a copy and paste job. All the letters to the MPs will be passed on and a generic response sent. Its what happens after that which counts - will any MP take this further?

        However I am very encouraged by the response - far better than I expected.
        Yes I got the same response. The encouraging thing is that someone has read the emails, they have understood them to the point of associating them all together and thus have formed an idea that this is a significant problem to us. They have also taken the time to write a considered reply and I am sure the issue will be brought to the committee members as they said.

        The problem is that drawing something to the committees attention stops at that. How do we move past drawing it to their attention to the point of providing real drivers why anything should be changed ? In the case of Barclays there is a real driver because multinationional companies can upsticks and move to new jurisdictions. In our case I doubt they care and fairness will not drive them to change anything.

        So in my view, good response but will have limited results by itself. Having the same questions passed to them by numerous MP's is the next area we should focus on.

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          Originally posted by travellingknob View Post
          So just who were they advising to pay up then ? You and who else are their clients that they are advising so enthusiastically ? And all this was stated in how long a meeting ?
          I understand your paranoia guys (long time lurker writes a few posts) I was just offering an example of the indifference on which this is regarded by many people - I understand we need to be positive but we also need to live in the real world as well

          KPMG are not going to tell me who their clients are, are they?
          And the meeting lasted for about an hour although I don't know what this qualifies?
          I arranged the meeting because I think that maybe at some point in the future it may be better to try to strike a deal under KPMG's flag rather than Montpeliers (and I don't know at what point Montpeliers support will end)

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            Originally posted by Dulakipper View Post
            I understand your paranoia guys (long time lurker writes a few posts) I was just offering an example of the indifference on which this is regarded by many people - I understand we need to be positive but we also need to live in the real world as well

            KPMG are not going to tell me who their clients are, are they?
            And the meeting lasted for about an hour although I don't know what this qualifies?
            I arranged the meeting because I think that maybe at some point in the future it may be better to try to strike a deal under KPMG's flag rather than Montpeliers (and I don't know at what point Montpeliers support will end)
            My alarm is how you can go to a meeting and someone in KPMG can come up with a broad statement that a scheme doesn't work in such a short space of time. In 1 hour, how could they possibly have reviewed and understood both the scheme and your personal situation within it.

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              Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
              Steed's main point of contact in KPMG has the initials MW. Was this who you met?

              I have heard from others saying that KPMG do appear to be backpeddling.

              I wonder if they've been leaned on by HMRC. I bet they do a lot of work for the Government depts.

              No wasn't MW, this was just a branch office up north, my wife's accountant has a contact and arranged the appointment for me
              The guys I saw were no experts in our plight, said it wasn't viable for them to deal with freelancers in the world of tax avoidance and offered their services via a Ltd company! (they gave the impression I had been dabbling in something I knew nothing about and that it was always going to end in tears)

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                Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
                Steed's main point of contact in KPMG has the initials MW. Was this who you met?

                I have heard from others saying that KPMG do appear to be backpeddling.

                I wonder if they've been leaned on by HMRC. I bet they do a lot of work for the Government depts.
                Government & Public Sector | KPMG | UK
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                  Originally posted by travellingknob View Post
                  Yes I got the same response. The encouraging thing is that someone has read the emails, they have understood them to the point of associating them all together and thus have formed an idea that this is a significant problem to us. They have also taken the time to write a considered reply and I am sure the issue will be brought to the committee members as they said.

                  The problem is that drawing something to the committees attention stops at that. How do we move past drawing it to their attention to the point of providing real drivers why anything should be changed ? In the case of Barclays there is a real driver because multinationional companies can upsticks and move to new jurisdictions. In our case I doubt they care and fairness will not drive them to change anything.

                  So in my view, good response but will have limited results by itself. Having the same questions passed to them by numerous MP's is the next area we should focus on.
                  Quite so. It would be helpful if anyone who's MP is on that committee visited or wrote to the MP and explained the effect section 58 will have.
                  There's an elephant wondering around here...

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                    Dreaming

                    The Supreme court were told to reject our application for a hearing... the scheme is no longer going through the courts (memories of letter from Mr Gauke)... in the budget tomorrow the Tories will do the right and honest thing and there will be a short paragraph tucked away, out of view from the press, that revokes the backdated application of BN66....

                    ... and then one of my colleagues nudged me in the ribs and woke me up!!!

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                      Originally posted by Dulakipper View Post
                      No wasn't MW, this was just a branch office up north, my wife's accountant has a contact and arranged the appointment for me
                      The guys I saw were no experts in our plight, said it wasn't viable for them to deal with freelancers in the world of tax avoidance and offered their services via a Ltd company! (they gave the impression I had been dabbling in something I knew nothing about and that it was always going to end in tears)
                      Sounds like when I go to my doctor and I come armed with more information than he has. The pompous old fool doesn't let me get a word in edgeways because "he knows better".

                      He then proceeds to tap my ailment into his computer, which I could swear was Google.
                      'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
                      Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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