BN66 - Court of Appeal and beyond

[BrilloPad]

By the way, it was nice of them to include their email addresses. If anyone feels like dropping them a line

Yes. I was thinking that.

However if they have not got the bottle to come and reply on here (which I personally think is just not cricket) is there any chance of getting a reply?

I would like to ask whether Alan Branigan is a real person? I have heard that there have been 3 people who have used that name.

I remember when I was young and stupid and email bombed the Attorney General. Amazingly they did absolutely nothing about it - I never did understand why. Maybe it was just way to easy to block my ip address and I fell under the radar?

[CanPayButWouldRatherNot]

is this "newsletter/xmas card" worthy of mention on the front page ?

hello HMRC

[BrilloPad]

is this "newsletter/xmas card" worthy of mention on the front page ?

hello HMRC

Its certainly worthy of mention on the joke thread! Inviting us to settle instead of getting a CTD - hilarious.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Has a date been set that our permission to appeal is granted/refused? I see from the Supreme Court website that decisions seem to be made around the start of the month.

There is no fixed timescale but they usually take 3-4 months.

We applied at the beginning of October so I'm expecting a decision Jan/Feb.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Hi,

Does the amount shown on the Closure Notices / Government Gateway include National Insurance due???

It does with mine. The "only" item not included is interest.

[Boycie]

I received one of these addressed to someone else. They could not even get the name correct.

Funny - exactly the same happened to me. Different name!

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Closure Notice with no prior enquiry

Have you received a Closure Notice where there was no prior enquiry opened in to that particular tax year?

One person who this happened to has challenged HMRC and they conceded that they should not have done this and have cancelled the sums owing from their account.

If this happened to you then write to whoever issued the CN and ask that they do the same.

[Fog]

Back!!!

no prior enquiry opened in to that particular tax year?

Hi Donkey - long time no speak!! Little one 19 months now - seems like a long time since we were first sat in the court room when I was 6 months pregnant.

Anyway - I have been off line for a while - and saw this and wondered if I needed to undertand something more? What paperwork do I need to look for to show this or otherwise?

Any chance of cheeky request... an update to first page. Always helps husband undertsand current position

Thx

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Take tax year 2001/2 for example.

The SA return would have been filed in Jan 2003. HMRC would have had until 31 Jan 2004 to open an enquiry. This would have been a letter saying they were enquiring under Code of Practice 8 (COP8).

In a signicant number of cases they failed to open an enquiry in time. These fall into 2 categories:

1) HMRC subsequently opened a COP8 enquiry under Discovery
2) HMRC never opened an enquiry and just sent out a Closure Notice

It is the latter (2) which they are now conceding was not correct. As far as I know they are still claiming (1) was permissible but this is something that Montpelier utterly refutes. I imagine this would have to be decided in a tax tribunal unless HMRC backs down beforehand.

(ps. I will update the 1st page this week)

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Several people have contacted me about the above.

If you think you haven't received enquiries for some CNs then I suggest the following as a first step.

Write to HMRC and ask them to provide proof (eg. dates when they wrote to you) that they opened enquiries into each of your tax returns.