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Could I expense My Business-Related Training Course?
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Originally posted by Vallah View Posthttp://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/480.pdf
See Page 79. I'm certain that if Duke of Edinburgh scheme attendance would qualify, then so would this case.Comment
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Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostIt doesn't mention D of E.
The point is, the legislation gives certain exemptions from the wholly and necessarily requirements. For example, provision of mobile phones, late night taxis and health screening. None of those are wholly and necessarily incurred in relation to employment. Training is another exemption. The only conditions it therefore needs to satisfy are the ones I listed on the page before, ie:
Prove useful to the employee when performing his duties, or
Qualify the employee to undertake the employment.
I maintain that training undertaken to give the OP a better chance of presenting a professional image in front of clients would fulfil the first requirement, in which case it is a tax deductible expense.Comment
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Originally posted by Vallah View PostApologies, it's Outward Bound and Prince's Trust. The point remains the same.
FWIW, I agree with you, though - it's certainly something that I would claim and then argue with HMRC in that event. There is a convincing enough argument that should preclude any penalty for deliberate tax evasion, so I would do it. If the accountant says no, find one that doesn't.
I disagree with my accountant on a number of things - at the end of the day, they are providing advice which I then choose not to follow, based on my amateur opinion (and the CUK collective, of course!)Comment
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Originally posted by Vallah View PostApologies, it's Outward Bound and Prince's Trust. The point remains the same.
The point is, the legislation gives certain exemptions from the wholly and necessarily requirements. For example, provision of mobile phones, late night taxis and health screening. None of those are wholly and necessarily incurred in relation to employment. Training is another exemption. The only conditions it therefore needs to satisfy are the ones I listed on the page before, ie:
Prove useful to the employee when performing his duties, or
Qualify the employee to undertake the employment.
I maintain that training undertaken to give the OP a better chance of presenting a professional image in front of clients would fulfil the first requirement, in which case it is a tax deductible expense.Comment
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Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostThen by the same token anything that gave an individual confidence, and therefore a better chance of getting customers, should be allowable as an expense because it will prove useful when performing his/her duties - hair transplants? Plastic surgery? IF HMR&C wouldn't allow barristers to claim for the cost of their robes because there was duality of purpose I really can't see them allowing speech therepy
Would that training course help him with his job? Yes.
Are personal skills courses that help people with their jobs allowable for tax? Yes.
To sum up, certain items that have a duality of purpose have exemptions that allow them to be treated as valid expenses allowable for tax. Training courses as we have seen, fulfil that criteria. Is there an exemption for hair transplants, barristers' robes and plastic surgery? No. They're not training courses, or any other item of expense that qualifies as a valid expense.Comment
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Originally posted by Vallah View PostIs there an exemption for training courses? Yes.
Would that training course help him with his job? Yes.
Are personal skills courses that help people with their jobs allowable for tax? Yes.
To sum up, certain items that have a duality of purpose have exemptions that allow them to be treated as valid expenses allowable for tax. Training courses as we have seen, fulfil that criteria. Is there an exemption for hair transplants, barristers' robes and plastic surgery? No. They're not training courses, or any other item of expense that qualifies as a valid expense.Comment
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Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostSpeech therapy classes are not a training course
I take 1 or 2 speech training courses (e.g. telephone skills for people who stammer, etcComment
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Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View PostSpeech therapy classes are not a training course
If so, then if he gets a certificate of attendance/completion then he should be able to claim.
There are soft skill business courses (I've been on a few free ones in the past) where they give you a certificate or sign a continuous professional training folder from various institutions.7
Edited to say: In fact I've never been on a course where they aren't happy to give you some sort of certificate just to ensure you know the details of the trainers."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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If it's therapy, then it's not claimable. If it's a personal development course - presentation skills, that kind of thing - then it could well be, even if the course is tailored to those who stutter - and identical to the therapy...
Bear in mind that there are folk here who would say that you can't claim for a course that gives an IT contractor new IT skills. Or even enhances existing ones.
I'd put a claim through and risk it being knocked back at investigation.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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