BN66 - Round 2 (Court of Appeal)

[DonkeyRhubarb]

is this an indicator in any way, good or bad?

Neither. The courts are just really slow, although to be fair the amount of litigation they are dealing with has gone through the roof in the past 10 years or so.

And I wonder why?

[BarneyCool]

Hmmm.. recommendation of the Prime Minister!

Have the timings moved on this? I'm sure the window
dates were a lot earlier than this last time I looked.

www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/listing_calendar/getDetail.do?case_id=20100360

18 Oct worst case!

Hang on new inofrmation on there too

12-Apr-10: Permission to Appeal referred to Lord/Lady Justice

Found this on wikipedia.
Its the last line that concerns me! Just how balanced are the scales I wonder?

A Lord Justice of Appeal is an ordinary judge of the Court of Appeal of England and Wales, the court that hears appeals from the High Court of Justice, and represents the second highest level of judge in the courts of England and Wales


Appointment
The number of Lords Justices was fixed at five by the Supreme Court of Judicature Act 1881, but has since been increased. Lords Justices are selected from the ranks of senior judges, in practice High Court judges with lengthy experience, appointed by the Queen on the recommendation of the Prime Minister.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Sure looks that way

It is useful to use PwC's application as a reference:

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/l...se_id=20091224

11-Nov-09: Case passed to List Office
01-Sep-09: Permission to Appeal referred to Lord/Lady Justice
04-Aug-09: Bundle corrections were approved

From the case being passed to the Lord/Lady Justice, it was 6 months before they had their oral hearing on 9th March.

On that basis, if we had to go to an oral hearing, then 6 months would take us to October.

I'll post an update if I manage to clarify the timescales.

[Tax_shouldnt_be_taxing]

A dogs dinner

Today I treated myself to breakfast at one of those diners where the frontage has a podgy looking man with a chefs hat on. It was more for convenience than hunger.

The breakfast was duely ordered. As I settled back into the nice red plastic 'chair' sipping my coffee I preambled through the Daily Mail.

When my 'Full English' arrived I soon found that the mushrooms were so cold that rigamortis could be about to set in. Naturally I asked the nice person serving if they could do something about them.

Now, logic would suggest that they'd take the plate away, scoop of the dead and dying chuck on a load of tasty hot mushrooms and have my delicacy back in a matter of moments. But oh no. A few minutes later, the same breakfast returned with hot mushrooms but sadly the baked beans and fried egg had suffered the same fate as the earlier mushrooms. I could see an infinite loop of rigamortis followed my a rising from the dead of each part of my breakfast in turn without ever once having everything as it should be - at the same time.

Then it struck me. Somewhere, many years ago whilst in their late teens, many tax inspectors could have been working in such an establishment and this 'work experience' is from where they drew their current approach to 'service'.

I mean, they treat the tax payer like they're mushrooms. They keep you in the dark for years and feed you bullsh*t. Then when you've been ordered, they keep you stewing until you're cold and soggy such that nobody wants you. So you're thrown away to make room for the next 'batch'.

With this terrible reality sinking in, I decided to exact revenge. Rather than demand a free breakfast or leave without paying I asked them to deduct the VAT off the bill which they happily did. So Hector, mushrooms to you we might be, but I just stopped you getting your "fair share". A small victory, but one to savour - at least in one way. I ended up buying a baguette at the ajoining petrol station instead.

[smalldog]

the worst thing

TSBT the worst thing about this is they dont see the big picture. They dont look at cause and effect, they never consider "so if we push this thingy in, what is going to pop out the otherside and is that a bigger thingy with a bigger impact than pushing this thingy in, in the first place?"

they just randomly push thingys in without a care in the world on whats going to pop out the otherside...ahhh ignorance is such bliss

[Tax_shouldnt_be_taxing]

Warts and All

TSBT the worst thing about this is they dont see the big picture. They dont look at cause and effect, they never consider "so if we push this thingy in, what is going to pop out the otherside and is that a bigger thingy with a bigger impact than pushing this thingy in, in the first place?"

they just randomly push thingys in without a care in the world on whats going to pop out the otherside...ahhh ignorance is such bliss

Totally agree. And whichever way you 'take it', the result of pushing their 'thingy in' is that you end up totally fubar'd. But as none of us condone (or should that be condom) this approach there's always the chance that they catch chlamydia or as I hope it's going to be known - taxtecular warts. And if HMRC don't like that, then I say - boll*cks!

I might consider becoming a Freeman of Britain. Other than being allowed to drive geese through the streets of London it appears there are rather old laws that might work in our favour...

[smalldog]

Totally agree. And whichever way you 'take it', the result of pushing their 'thingy in' is that you end up totally fubar'd. But as none of us condone (or should that be condom) this approach there's always the chance that they catch chlamydia or as I hope it's going to be known - taxtecular warts. And if HMRC don't like that, then I say - boll*cks!

I might consider becoming a Freeman of Britain. Other than being allowed to drive geese through the streets of London it appears there are rather old laws that might work in our favour...

as a freeman you can drive sheep across london bridge

[Tax_shouldnt_be_taxing]

as a freeman you can drive sheep across london bridge

Preferably whilst the bridge is up and with some concrete to help them on their way.

[smalldog]

Preferably whilst the bridge is up and with some concrete to help them on their way.

London matey, not tower!!! that fat chef breakfast has gone to your head!!

[SantaClaus]

Preferably whilst the bridge is up and with some concrete to help them on their way.

The sheep you are referring to aren't Labour voters by any chance, are they?