Have accepted a permie job in Munich...

[Olly]

so it's pretty much the same as being taxed in Germany for it then!!!
buuuuuuuuuuut
as I mentioned before. German tax yr runs from Jan so what about taking the dividend in Dec then starting work in DE in Jan?

[SalsaFever]

so what about taking the dividend in Dec then starting work in DE in Jan?

it should be perfectly OK.

[Olly]

it should be perfectly OK.

......ermmmm
so you don't know then?
sorry, sounds a bit rude doesn't it....wasn't meant to be, just a polite dig

[LostInBrussels]

When you filing out German tax, don't forget to include your income from previous country you worked for the same tax year.

Famt is googling internet profiles to find out if you worked somewhere else during the tax year.

I know some people arrived in Germany at the middle of the year and declared themselves as on-the-bench for the first half.

Once they busted because of AFSS / PSB scam, famt also brought 'undeclared income from previous employment' issue on the table, as an appetizer

This would explain why my new employer has asked for my tax card, details of my current social security, details of number of days vacation I have taken this year etc. I'm in a scramble trying to get the info together. Maybe since I start work on Jan 3rd, all this info is not really necessary for them? I think they sent me a standard letter that they send off to all their new employees.

[LostInBrussels]

You must declare any income that you have, since you registered in Germany, except foreign rental income, coz it aint taxable.

Your salary will have to be declared, and put in the box which is exempt accoridng to the DTA. A PAYE slip will suffice. This won't be taxed but will push up your tax rate on other income.

Your UK income will be taxed in the UK as you were resident for part of the year, but you might be on a lower tax rate.

I will take your advice and find an accountant in Germany. As I mentioned, I will be a permie in Germany so my tax should be deducted at source and I would love to have no extra paperwork. Am I to understand, I won't even have to declare my UK rental income in Germany, so that they can decide the tax rate on my German earnings?

[darmstadt]

I started here as a permie some 20 years ago and have forgotten everything but the one thing I do remember is that once you have done a tax return then you need to do one every year otherwise you don't need to see an accountant and just let your company do your paperwork for you. If you think you're going to get money back each year then make sure that the accountant charges are less than what you receive from the Finanzamt otherwise it ain't worth it.

Top tip: if you do want to do a tax return but don't want to use an accountant, some of the computer packages are quite good but also you can get the forms from the F-amt and do them yourself. For a few years I did this and then for each section I used to wander up to the F-amt and ask them if what I had filled in was correct. By law they have to tell you what goes in each section but they can't tell what to put in each section which is a good way of checking to see that you are claiming for the correct stuff.

[SalsaFever]

Am I to understand, I won't even have to declare my UK rental income in Germany, so that they can decide the tax rate on my German earnings?

I suggest you better talk to a german accountant.

I am sure you have to declare your worldwide income regardless wherever it's sourced in your german taxes.

Failure to do so might result penalties.

I have first hand experience where f-amt checking someone's online profile and claimed taxes for his previous contract assignment in other EU country (within same tax year).

[tim123]

Don't forget to put "none" in the religion box when you fill in any form.

Doing otherwise is an expensive mistake

tim