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    Invoice Factoring Recommendations

    Finally ditched my agent and am contracting direct, however I'm not keen on Clientco's payment terms. Can anyone out there recommend (I'm looking for personal reccomendations here, I can easily google them) an invoice factoring company that they have used?

    TIA
    'elf and safety guru

    #2
    I suppose the question really is would factoring cost any less than an agency margin?

    I used a factor about 15 years ago for some large hardware and labour supply projects and it wasn't at all cheap at 15% of invoice value, I'm sorry I have no idea how much it costs these days.

    If you're going to have to factor because you've cut out the agencies then I suspect you might end up losing out on the deal

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      #3
      Do you really mean factoring? Or simply invoice discounting?

      The former, the 3rd party factoring company takes over your entire sales ledger, chasing up payment etc.

      The latter, all they do is advance you the money (client does not need to know).

      What size is your sales ledger? If you're a 1 man band contractor, unless you're charging £5,000+ per week, you really need to be looking at the smallest of factoring/discounting firms to take you on. I'm good friends with a guy who runs a (mainly) invoice discounting firm, but they wouldn't want to get involved for very small credit lines.

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        #4
        I'm pretty sure there's a brolly who pay on timesheet, not when paid ... Atlantic(?).

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          #5
          HI I've recently had experience with Lloyds TSB factoring and though not the cheapest way to borrow not to bad, very helpful and very polite with clients (they do chase for money BUT dont promise to when selling to you so they are being more honest than some) I have seen them before and, as with most factoring, I dont know anyone who uses them who would not get out if they could.
          Lloyds do deal with smaller firms BUT you are then looking at a mimimum fee pm of about £290 which equates to about £230,000 turnover. BUt they are happy to take you on if turnover is £50k (but still same minimum charge so course they are!) but many factoring companies would not look at it at all. If you want an intro PM me At end of day though if you are able to afford it with credit card/loan/overdraft you will find it cheaper to fund the cashflow by other means. Invoice discounting tends to want higher turnovers. Also if going down this route make sure they will lend what you need as you will only have one customer which they don't tend to like (some might say only £5000 per customer therefore £3480pa cost for a £5000 borrowing NOT GOOD!)

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            #6
            What sort of payment terms are we talking and are client Co likely to go bust any time soon ?

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              #7
              Try a good contractors scheme before you sign up to Factoring Invoices

              Originally posted by thelace View Post
              Finally ditched my agent and am contracting direct, however I'm not keen on Clientco's payment terms. Can anyone out there recommend (I'm looking for personal reccomendations here, I can easily google them) an invoice factoring company that they have used?

              TIA

              They are all quite expensive. But try Bibby's and your own bank's factoring arm.

              Alternatively try a contractor arrangement that uses an EBT so you take home after all tax and fees about 80% plus of billings. Some of the better ones even arrange a loan to tide you over.

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                #8
                Is this something people want?

                Hi

                I am considering quitting the day job to to launch a specialist invoice discounter for contractors. We will offer same day payment, with very little paperwork or fuss to contractors invoicing over £5k. We plan to offer same day transfer against timesheets & invoice, charging only a 3% fee per invoice.

                I noticed this thread where a conversation had already been started and would love some feedback before i take the plunge, is this something contractors want and would value enough to pay for?

                Basically - is there anyone who would think's they'd benefit from this type of service, of should I not quit the day job!?

                Thanks

                Daniel

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                  #9
                  That fact that you've dug up a 4 year old thread may tell you something...
                  "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                  - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by smallbusinessdan View Post
                    Hi

                    I am considering quitting the day job to to launch a specialist invoice discounter for contractors. We will offer same day payment, with very little paperwork or fuss to contractors invoicing over £5k. We plan to offer same day transfer against timesheets & invoice, charging only a 3% fee per invoice.

                    I noticed this thread where a conversation had already been started and would love some feedback before i take the plunge, is this something contractors want and would value enough to pay for?

                    Basically - is there anyone who would think's they'd benefit from this type of service, of should I not quit the day job!?

                    Thanks

                    Daniel
                    If you are going to include some kind of insurance, then it might be worth it - ie. you advance the money and if the agency / client doesn't pay then it's your problem to chase the debt not mine.

                    Depending on the size of the client / agency, once you've been trading for a while and built up a bank balance, is there any real need to pay someone 3% for better terms? I'm direct at the moment and my contract says 60 day terms, but the client generally pays in half that time, and I know they're good for the money so I don't worry. If they were smaller, then I wouldn't have agreed those terms anyway.

                    Not convinced that there is much need for it, to be honest. But you could look at the financials of other people already in this space and see how they are doing before making the leap.
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