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BN66 - the road to Judicial Review

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    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
    Bad News
    The Committee are not going to take the matter any further. They have concluded from Timms' (non)response to their letter, that the Treasury has no intention of cooperating, and it would be a waste of their time trying to convince them otherwise.

    Good News
    They will produce their final report based on the information they already have. This will include the letter from Timms, their comments and final conclusions. The report will be published before Xmas, which should be in time for the JR early next year.

    Whilst this may seem disappointing now, I suspect we may look back and conclude that Timms did us a massive favour by basically telling the Committee to sod off.

    The Government were given the opportunity to put their side of the case, and yet they chose to say nothing. They (and HMRC) have only got themselves to blame if the Committee now produces a highly damning report.
    I view this as pretty much all goods news. Timms hasnt even tried. A damning silence if ever there was one. And the committe will of course be taking the matter further, i.e in the report they produce, which will be published I assume in good time for the JR.

    Three cheers for the Hideous-Faced one, and another bullet in his own foot.

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      Not happy with the JCHR's decision?

      Do you feel they should have pushed Timms further for a proper response?

      Feel free to make your views known to them.

      Their email address is on this page:
      http://www.parliament.uk/parliamenta...ct_details.cfm

      Please keep it civil because we don't want to alienate them when they have been sympathetic/supportive up to now.

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        Rsi...

        Hello,

        Suffering a bit from RSI now having emailed Anne Widdecombe, Fred Field, and the JCHR Committee.

        I have forwarded all three to DR so he has a record of what I sent.

        MajorGowen...

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          Originally posted by MajorGowen View Post
          ...having emailed ...the JCHR Committee.
          You are not alone. Several others have copied me on emails.

          I think the committee would be surprised if no-one contacted them, especially after we reported how severely people would be affected.

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            Originally posted by poppy01 View Post
            I view this as pretty much all goods news. Timms hasnt even tried. A damning silence if ever there was one. And the committe will of course be taking the matter further, i.e in the report they produce, which will be published I assume in good time for the JR.

            Three cheers for the Hideous-Faced one, and another bullet in his own foot.
            must admit did expect something like this, but not at this early stage

            very disappointed for lots of reasons, whatever way you cut it, Timms and Co got what they asked for. So whatever happens they will never be held to account.

            Nonetheless, I personallly don't think this was never going to swing it for us in court, if we cannot wrap it up with what we already have I will be shocked :-)
            - SL -

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              Originally posted by silver_lining View Post
              Nonetheless, I personallly don't think this was never going to swing it for us in court, if we cannot wrap it up with what we already have I will be shocked :-)
              True but it's reassuring to have an independent body scrutinise it and conclude that it stinks.

              I'm sure the Judge will be aware of the JCHR's findings, and at least if he/she rules in our favour they will know that they haven't gone out on a limb.

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                Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
                Bad News
                The Committee are not going to take the matter any further. They have concluded from Timms' (non)response to their letter, that the Treasury has no intention of cooperating, and it would be a waste of their time trying to convince them otherwise.

                Good News
                They will produce their final report based on the information they already have. This will include the letter from Timms, their comments and final conclusions. The report will be published before Xmas, which should be in time for the JR early next year.

                Whilst this may seem disappointing now, I suspect we may look back and conclude that Timms did us a massive favour by basically telling the Committee to sod off.

                The Government were given the opportunity to put their side of the case, and yet they chose to say nothing. They (and HMRC) have only got themselves to blame if the Committee now produces a highly damning report.
                If there is a damning report how will that help us?

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                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  If there is a damning report how will that help us?
                  Our legal team believe it will, which is good enough for me.

                  I don't want to say any more here but if anyone wants further insight PM or email me.

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                    Its easy to feel negative

                    DR

                    Disappointing yet unsurprising that the JCHR failed to get any resposne and thus were unable to deliver any reall damming blow to Timms and his cronnies.

                    Will we get full access to any draft before it is issued? Are we confident that their report will nail him/them for this injustice?

                    I like most am facing a bill of £150K+ which I simply cannot afford and right now and resigned to losing it. Based on this any other result in our favour will be a bonus.

                    These shysters are a law upon themselves and its difficult not to be pessimistic and assume that any Judicial Review will involve a brown envelope and a directive that us low life hard workers simply cannot win the case. mad

                    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
                    Bad News
                    The Committee are not going to take the matter any further. They have concluded from Timms' (non)response to their letter, that the Treasury has no intention of cooperating, and it would be a waste of their time trying to convince them otherwise.

                    Good News
                    They will produce their final report based on the information they already have. This will include the letter from Timms, their comments and final conclusions. The report will be published before Xmas, which should be in time for the JR early next year.

                    Whilst this may seem disappointing now, I suspect we may look back and conclude that Timms did us a massive favour by basically telling the Committee to sod off.

                    The Government were given the opportunity to put their side of the case, and yet they chose to say nothing. They (and HMRC) have only got themselves to blame if the Committee now produces a highly damning report.

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                      Email to JCHR sent.

                      Hope others will follow too.
                      'Orwell's 1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual'. -
                      Nick Pickles, director of Big Brother Watch.

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