CrystalUmbrella & Tax- help

**Beefy198** · 6 March 2009, 13:26

I'm confused.... you're working through an umbrella, so tax should be deducted at source and then paid quarterly (I presume) to HMRC... why are you getting 'final demands' and how do you know the situation is the same for other contractors?

**LisaContractorUmbrella** · 6 March 2009, 13:42

From their website Crystal would appear to operate a standard PAYE umbrella company which means that your tax and NI have been deducted at source and paid directly to HMR&C each month. Do you have any income from any other source that tax would be payable on via self-assessment?

**FarangMau** · 6 March 2009, 13:51

They used to operate an LLP scheme which the OP is probably still on. OP can you confirm ?

**mlwtwin** · 6 March 2009, 14:12

That's what I thought and that's what has happend the last 2 years, but now they are saying they can't pay direct for me and need me to do it..... I have asked for details on the legislation change... fuming!!!

**mlwtwin** · 6 March 2009, 14:15

BTW, I have no other income... I have used them for a couple of years, spoke to 3 other guys I know use them and they have the same problem.

**Svalbaard** · 6 March 2009, 14:33

Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post

tax and NI have been deducted at source and paid directly to their Cayman Island bank accounts each month.

**LisaContractorUmbrella** · 6 March 2009, 15:45

Originally posted by mlwtwin View Post

That's what I thought and that's what has happend the last 2 years, but now they are saying they can't pay direct for me and need me to do it..... I have asked for details on the legislation change... fuming!!!

Can you confirm that you have had regular payslips from Crystal which show that deductions have been made for income tax and national insurance?

**cojak** · 6 March 2009, 16:06

Bluddy Hell - not another thread about scammy umbrellas...!

Get PM rights Chaps and then dive in under the radar - I expect a threatening post by said SU to appear in the next day or so...

**Maloty** · 6 March 2009, 16:32

Umbrella or LLP

Originally posted by mlwtwin View Post

I really do not know what to do with the current situation with my umbrella company - Crystal Umbrella. They have not paid my end of year tax. it looks like none of the contractors have and I have final demands. They have said that they will transfer the money back so I can then pay HMRC.......

Any help appreciated.

Depends whether your an Umbrella customer or an old LLP customer as No longer Limited (Crystal's original company name) offered 2 solutions before the MSC legislative changes, which meant Crystal was opened to manage Umbrella business and NLL remained just LLP customers.

I suspect from the comments you made, you are an LLP customer which means your contract would still be with No Longer Limited as is mine.

I have had the same letter and am fully confident that the guys at NLL know what they are doing, not failed me yet.

However if you are an Umbrella customer, no worries as Crystal are classed as your employer so it will be them that get fined for late payment not you..

CrystalUmbrella & Tax- help