BN66 - Time to fight back (Chapter 3)

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Yeah, well mines was poor and basically said "you've avoided paying tax" and should seek legal help.

Why do they ask for your NI number, I refused to give mine out as I didn't want any fall out from it.

I think I remember your letter.

You could wind the supercilious cow up by sending my latest version which just says forward on to the Treasury.

[poppy01]

Yeah, well mines was poor and basically said "you've avoided paying tax" and should seek legal help.

Why do they ask for your NI number, I refused to give mine out as I didn't want any fall out from it.

they just dont get it do they.

Once for all, avoiding paying tax is your legal right and I would say your duty under this government. Having avoided tax DOES NOT mean you owe the tax you avoided, it means you outsmarted the system.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

they just dont get it do they.

Once for all, avoiding paying tax is your legal right and I would say your duty under this government. Having avoided tax DOES NOT mean you owe the tax you avoided, it means you outsmarted the system.

Oh I think they get it alright. It's just that they have reclassified avoidance as merely a lesser form of crime than evasion. A bit like cannabis vs. heroin.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Reminder

If you wrote to your MP in early Feb and still haven't had a response, drop me a line and I will send you a followup letter ready to go.

If you got the brush off from a Labour MP, then I've got a letter that they will find harder to wriggle out of.

[zippo]

Oh I think they get it alright. It's just that they have reclassified avoidance as merely a lesser form of crime than evasion. A bit like cannabis vs. heroin.

Is there a classification for MP's claiming to much expenses ????

[smalldog]

hey poppy, sorry to hear your woes... my marriage took a dive mid last year, and a lot of it has to do with all this!!!

[Maddog]

Joking aside, I've been on strong anti-depressants since April last year, my marriage has been on the verge of breakdown, I can't sleep, and am only just functioning. I believe I also now have a drink problem (sounds like the support group again).

If I didn't have mental health problems before BN66, I do now

Poppy

Don't let the ba5tards grind you down ! Take comfort that lots of people are in the same boat, and DR and Brillo are doing a great job fighting our cause.

It's only money after all !!

Feeling low and depressed is just feeding the dementors @ HMRC.

The sun is out, ManU lost, get out that and enjoy youself, before they start taxing happiness !!!


Mad

[BrilloPad]

Joking aside, I've been on strong anti-depressants since April last year, my marriage has been on the verge of breakdown, I can't sleep, and am only just functioning. I believe I also now have a drink problem (sounds like the support group again).

If I didn't have mental health problems before BN66, I do now

I have been through all the mental health/divorce thing. quite frankly the drugs they gave me just made me worse. much worse. I found exercise and healthy eating far better for me. though not nearly as good as the crazy things I did for fathers 4 justice. I look back and think what an idiot I was : but at the time it was incredibly theraputic. And as for those who got hurt : well they were asking for it : they deserved what they got. Maybe one day I will feel sorry for them : I hope so.

Anyway : at least your post will have cheered up HMRC head office : they dont get much happiness in their dreary lives.

[poppy01]

I have been through all the mental health/divorce thing. quite frankly the drugs they gave me just made me worse. much worse. I found exercise and healthy eating far better for me. though not nearly as good as the crazy things I did for fathers 4 justice. I look back and think what an idiot I was : but at the time it was incredibly theraputic. And as for those who got hurt : well they were asking for it : they deserved what they got. Maybe one day I will feel sorry for them : I hope so.

Anyway : at least your post will have cheered up HMRC head office : they dont get much happiness in their dreary lives.

thinking that I've cheered anyone up at HMRC has depressed me even more

as has been said, waaay - 4-1, effing magic. and as I mentioned a couple of posts ago, my mood is up at the moment.

I see Barclays have been up to no good re artificial arrangements to avoid tax. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5908523.ece

I insist the treasury introduce retrospective legislation to claw back the up to £1bn a year Barclays has cheated them of. If not I insist they treat us the same way and (as the printed article says) roll over..

[Toocan]

they just dont get it do they.

Once for all, avoiding paying tax is your legal right and I would say your duty under this government. Having avoided tax DOES NOT mean you owe the tax you avoided, it means you outsmarted the system.

Let’s remember that HMRC knew ALL about the Montpelier scheme since the early 2000’s and, frankly, appear to have decided to tolerate it. After all, they claim that the “Padmore legislation clearly applied”. If it was clear to them, but HMRC did not tell ANY of us, then what other conclusion can a man on the Clapham omnibus be expected to come to but that HMRC decided to tolerate this scheme?

To claim anything other is to accuse HMRC of either maladministration or dereliction of duty. Neither of which we have any responsibility for.

To those who have had closed (accepted) tax returns re-opened: how did HMRC know to bring your SAR under enquiry? Did you give them anymore information that the Trust opening form and the claim for DTA relief on your SAR? No? Neither did I. Which means they had all the information they needed.

HMRC’s attempt to re-open returns, and the case they are using, demonstrate that HMRC are determined to thwart the intention of Parliament. Parliament intended taxpayers to achieve certainty in the self assessment tax system – HMRC have gone 180 degrees against that. HMRC are operating to the letter of the law rather than the sprit of the law.

When one tosses a coin it can land on head or tails, but not both. You can’t have your cake and eat it. One cannot make a choice and not make a choice.