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    Take Home Pay

    There has been quite a lot of chat on the board, over the last few months, about the percentage take home pay that can be 'achieved' using different umbrella companies, EBTs, limited company etc etc.

    As things stand at the moment, if you do not want to attract any undue attention from HMR&C, you basically have 2 options available to you - an umbrella company or your own limited company. However, if your contract is inside IR35, you will receive payment via PAYE regardless of which option you take.

    If you are paid via PAYE you will be liable for income tax and national insurance contributions. Your earnings up to £34,800, less your tax free allowance, will be taxed at 20%; everything above this will be taxed at 40%. National insurance rates are 11% for employee's and 12.8% for employer's on earnings above £105 per week.

    So, assuming you are a contractor earning, say, £300 per day how on earth do you take home 85 or 90% of your earnings??? Good question. The answer is that you can't without offsetting the vast majority of your tax liability. There are several ways of doing this:

    You can put everything over minimum wage into a pension scheme - this option will leave you next to nothing to live on for the next 20 or so years but you should be reasonably well off after that.

    You can claim expenses. To use our example of earnings of £300 - to net 85% of your earnings you would need to claim over £800 in expenses each and every week. Whilst this is possible it is unlikely as you would be working for £700 gross a week rather than £1500 gross as your outgoings would be over £800. Of course you would get tax relief on the expenses but you would still have spent that money in the first place.

    So, schemes that promise 80-90% take home can actually offer that but only if your expenses are at the sort of level shown above. If your gross earnings are £300 per week and you work 25 miles from home and don't want to invest in a pension you will not net 80-90% - if you do please expect a visit from one of the lovely chaps at the HMR&C sometime soon.

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    #2
    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    So, schemes that promise 80-90% take home can actually offer that but only if your expenses are at the sort of level shown above.
    .... assuming the "scheme" is an umbrella. Most schemes that advertise 80-90% take home in my experience offer some sort of off shore arrangement that doesn't rely on expenses at all. Of course you have to weight up the extra risks of using a mechanism like this.

    Some other pertinent points. Using a limited company (outside of IR35) and income shifting with a partner can also give you gains of 80%+. This is completely legal, with none of the off-shore risks, but may be stopped after next April and requires you to have a non-working partner.

    Using a limited company inside or outside of IR35 is likely to be more profitable than an umbrella as you can benefit directly from the Flat Rate VAT scheme (plus there are probably a number of other benefits too). However there is a bit more administration to do using this route. You are also completely in control of your money!

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      #3
      Lisa,

      Thanks for your posting. I am interested to know if its better to pay oneself a Directors fee or pay min.wage for no. of hours worked??

      Currently my accounts recommend i pay myself a directors fee each week of £106 gross, plus remaining funds as dividends (-corp. tax).

      I have always asked them, will paying the 13pence or so NI actually entitle me to full NI benfits (sick pay & retirement pension) later in life, and they have always said yes. Accountants have stated this is the most tax beneficial payment for contractors. Yet at work other contractors i know say there accountant recommends the payment of min. wage & dividends!

      I am confused...any advice welcome
      Last edited by diesel; 21 October 2008, 11:44.

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        #4
        Originally posted by diesel View Post
        Lisa,

        Thanks for your posting. I am interested to know if its better to pay oneself a Directors fee or pay min.wage for no. of hours worked??

        Currently my accounts recommend i pay myself a directors fee each week of £106 gross, plus remaining funds as dividends (-corp. tax).

        I have always asked them, will paying the 13pence or so NI actually entitle me to full NI benfits (sick pay & retirement pension) later in life, and they have always said yes. Accounts have stated this is the most tax beneficial payment for contractors. Yet at work other contractors i know say there account recommends the payment of min. wage & dividends!

        I am confused...any advice welcome
        Hi Diesel

        Matter of opinion really this one but by paying yourself that little you could find questions being asked by HMR&C in the event of an investigation. I think they may question why a full time career contractor thinks a 'reasonable' salary is less than £6k per year. Although the minimum wage is low at £11k it is certainly a more realistic figure.
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          #5
          Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
          Hi Diesel

          Matter of opinion really this one but by paying yourself that little you could find questions being asked by HMR&C in the event of an investigation. I think they may question why a full time career contractor thinks a 'reasonable' salary is less than £6k per year. Although the minimum wage is low at £11k it is certainly a more realistic figure.
          Why would they ask questions of £6k per year and not £11k?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Just1morethen View Post
            Why would they ask questions of £6k per year and not £11k?
            Because at £6k per year most people would pay zero tax as their tax free allowance would be higher than their salary. At £11k some tax and NI would be paid.
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              #7
              Why would that stop them asking questions?

              Applying min. wage to a director seems pointless as the legilsation does not apply to directors.

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                #8
                Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
                Because at £6k per year most people would pay zero tax as their tax free allowance would be higher than their salary. At £11k some tax and NI would be paid.
                Is there any hard, conslusive evidence that this actually matters with respect to the likelyhood of a HMRC inspection? Or is it an urban myth?
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
                  Is there any hard, conslusive evidence that this actually matters with respect to the likelyhood of a HMRC inspection? Or is it an urban myth?
                  I'll concede that there is some suggestion that the Revenue will be more likely to launch an enquiry into a company where they are more likelt top receover a greater amount of tax. So, in theory, the more tax you pay thru PAYE, the less likely they are to enquire. I don't know how true that is though.

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                    #10
                    As I said it really is just a matter of opinion - we can only summise what the HMR&C will do...until they prove us wrong
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