*False* Advertising: What can I do? Anyone help?

[BolshieBastard]

That doesn't make sense, if you work direct there's only one contract and nothing to dovetail... From an IR35 perspective the upper and lower contracts must agree or the upper contract can lead to the contract being deemed caught by IR35.

Agreed. Following the HC decision on Dragonfly,I'd sayits imperative the contractor knows what's in the upper and lower contract ie its no good the lower contract having a sub clause if the upper contract fetters it.

[Another Dodgy Agent]

That doesn't make sense, if you work direct there's only one contract and nothing to dovetail... From an IR35 perspective the upper and lower contracts must agree or the upper contract can lead to the contract being deemed caught by IR35.

Apologies should have expanded, i.e. if you are a consultancy and have a standard contract and the client also has a contract then you would want to make sure that what you agree in terms of your obligations matches with the client's. This is what happens when an agent tries to multi-task!!

Right I am off to the pub (sorry, I meant client site).

[pauly]

Are you new to this?

No. I am not new to this. Just disgusted that that the PM's, Analysts and other IT workers of this country (who do the hard work and develop the Intellectual Property within companies) are outnumbered 5:1 by sales people in body-shopping agencies trading them to make short term commissions.

No wonder big tech is created outside the UK.

We are strangled by agencies and should stand up to it.

[Another Dodgy Agent]

No. I am not new to this. Just disgusted that that the PM's, Analysts and other IT workers of this country (who do the hard work and develop the Intellectual Property within companies) are outnumbered 5:1 by sales people in body-shopping agencies trading them to make short term commissions.

No wonder big tech is created outside the UK.

We are strangled by agencies and should stand up to it.

Clearly you have never met any of my contractors. They tend to spend more time in the pub, but do occasionally take a break to do some work.

[pauly]

Clearly you have never met any of my contractors. They tend to spend more time in the pub, but do occasionally take a break to do some work.

Probably is true - when they are on a contract. When not on a contract, they are probably bustin' their guts trying to find something and then trying to work with agencies that would struggle to spell UML (let alone know what it is).

[Another Dodgy Agent]

Probably is true - when they are on a contract. When not on a contract, they are probably bustin' their guts trying to find something and then trying to work with agencies that would struggle to spell UML (let alone know what it is).

UML = Ultimately More Lagerbeer? - just kidding.

I can understand your frustration, the majority of agents are wazzock's, I guess you need to work out the good from the bad.

Long term agents should know stuff concerning the area they work in, i.e. mine is Transfer Agency/Fund Accounting and Custody - after 10 years of this I know exactly what TPA and Custody conversion involves and normally who in the market is currently available.

The majority of contractors that I know are friends of mine and we socialise regularly away from work. Contractors have become clients or recommend me to clients and thus this is my network and business.