BN66 - Time to fight back!!!

[Emigre]

Dont worry, after the recent Dragonfly ruling, even those 'people' who lay into us regarding MP will be laughing on the other side of their face tonight!

99% of contractors WILL be IR35 caught based on the Dragonfly ruling and insurance wont save their bacon either.

Welcome to the real world, guys!

Oh and I still havent received any closure notice. Yet!

Its important to remember how most people on the MP scheme arrived there. I got there through looking for an alternative approach as a result of the uncertainty arising from the poorly worded legislation called IR35. Nearly all of us were there once.

There is no need to be divisive or unsupportive of those in fear of Hector attacking their IR35 status. What we all want is good quality tax legislation that gives us reasonable reward for the added risks and above all, some certainty over our affairs. Yeah, ok, it would be great too if Hector could be just a little bit reasonable.

The Dragonfly decision may not be what the contractor community wants to hear, and sure we feel sorry about him having to pay the 100k, but it will add some more clarity to contractor's contractual situations.

[seadog]

Who are you meeting with?

Sorry Ratican, not for public consumption at the moment

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I'm sure the Revenue believes that wins such as Dragonfly will persuade more contractors to throw in the towel and operate inside IR35. The trouble is it will also drive many more into tax avoidance schemes, just like it did 7 years ago.

It's a shame the government can't think outside the box and come up with a compromise where freelancers pay the same maximum % of tax&nic as employees. Ok they would lose the employers NI but I'm sure a majority would sign up for this and they'd probably collect more revenue as a result.

There is no point the government coming up with a regime like IR35 which they believe is "fair", if the majority simply work around it.

[BrilloPad]

In my honest opinion the abusive and vulgar language is entirely appropriate.

If you wish to censor us then please dont post, thats the moderators job.

My only question would be have you filed the Judicial Review yet ?

How about "montpelier - why dont you keep us properly informed? Or even informed atall?". we should not be relying on this thread for info - montp should have a closed forum!

[seadog]

How about "montpelier - why dont you keep us properly informed? Or even informed atall?". we should not be relying on this thread for info - montp should have a closed forum!

Can someone educate me, what is a "closed forum"

[dezze]

How about "montpelier - why dont you keep us properly informed? Or even informed atall?". we should not be relying on this thread for info - montp should have a closed forum!

If I was in the MP scheme, I would have insisted MP (if they are talking!) set up a closed forum with only the scheme members. Although I follow this thread with great interest, I wouldn't want some of what is said to be freely available. I would not have thought MP would want comms from them to be freely discussed either.

[Emigre]

I'm sure the Revenue believes that wins such as Dragonfly will persuade more contractors to throw in the towel and operate inside IR35. The trouble is it will also drive many more into tax avoidance schemes, just like it did 7 years ago.

It's a shame the government can't think outside the box and come up with a compromise where freelancers pay the same maximum % of tax&nic as employees. Ok they would lose the employers NI but I'm sure a majority would sign up for this and they'd probably collect more revenue as a result.

There is no point the government coming up with a regime like IR35 which they believe is "fair", if the majority simply work around it.

IR35 simply isn't fair. When you know you're in it you end up paying more tax than a permie with none of the benefits and all of the risk. When you believe you are outside it you live in uncertainty for years to come. Yet when you are caught by it and deemed to be an employee, the law does not support you in claiming employee rights. So Gordon, is this how "right and fair" should work? And as you said DR, this is why the tax avoidance industry is the only growth industry at the moment.

[BrilloPad]

If I was in the MP scheme, I would have insisted MP (if they are talking!) set up a closed forum with only the scheme members. Although I follow this thread with great interest, I wouldn't want some of what is said to be freely available. I would not have thought MP would want comms from them to be freely discussed either.

Alot of the recent communications have not been put up here - we know who is watching! (BTW hello )

MOST in montpelier believe that one letter every 3 months is fine! And that answering our questions as and when is okay too!

Dezze - I wish you were running montpelier.

[Emigre]

MOST in montpelier believe that one letter every 3 months is fine! And that answering our questions as and when is okay too!

Are you getting answers then? I'm not.

eg What is the status of the application for a JR?
What support has Montpelier got from other scheme providers affected by S55 FA 2008 eg the major accounting firms?

[BrilloPad]

Are you getting answers then? I'm not.

eg What is the status of the application for a JR?
What support has Montpelier got from other scheme providers affected by S55 FA 2008 eg the major accounting firms?

I get little bits of info - now everything I know is on forum - or has been sent in the post.

I would like the answers to the above too!