Same ole' question, new twist.

[hyperD]

Hello Folks
Im a contractor in the UK and are fully limited. Although i dont work a full year, i was paying my accountant the monthly fee, and declined paying it when i wasnt earning. I have made attempt to get them to button up my first year, but they've lost interest as they didnt receive that monthly fee. The question is: What accountancy can i count on to take my spreadsheet and receipts, and submit my taxes. Please dont ask me what firm dropped me in it.

I'm sorry, but what made you think that accountants work on a monthly basis depending on your "employment"?

Do you understand the concept of "yearly returns"? You realise you can't squeeze these into a 3 month period for instance?

Who told you you could do this?

Did you speak to the accountants to explain your concerns or did you just carry on regardless knowing that you surely must be right?

People like you, and I'm sorry to be so harsh, do not have the necessary acumen to be legally in charge of a limited corporation.

Why is it that people like you expect it on a plate, moan when it doesn't go your way and yet have never spent a penny on basic research that any true businessman would have carried out.

Let me direct you to this site that you may find a little more beneficial for someone with your attitude:

http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/cgi-b...%20%25B%20%25Y

[Alan @ BroomeAffinity]

Well said HyperD. However...

I'm an accountant and have a client who went from brolly to ltd last March/April. He paid me his fees for 3 months and then stopped because he was going permie. Turns out the job wasnlt so permie as he is back contracting and seeking my assistance. That's no problem and I;m happy to take him on but he thinks that the 3 months at the start plus the 1 month at the end will cover his fees. It shouldn't but as I have a 100% satisfaction clause in my Fixed Price Agreement, then he can just claim he isn't satisfied and he won't need to pay. I expect that we'll meet in the middle and I'll get another 3 months out of him to cover it.

Its a pain in the ar*e have to do work below value but I recognise that its now a hugley competitive market and I need to differentiate my firm from, for example SJD, and the satisfaction clause is my way of doing this. Sometimes you need to suck it up and accept the fact that you can't achieve 100% projected profit from every client.

[Ruprect]

Well said HyperD. However...

I'm an accountant and have a client who went from brolly to ltd last March/April. He paid me his fees for 3 months and then stopped because he was going permie. Turns out the job wasnlt so permie as he is back contracting and seeking my assistance. That's no problem and I;m happy to take him on but he thinks that the 3 months at the start plus the 1 month at the end will cover his fees. It shouldn't but as I have a 100% satisfaction clause in my Fixed Price Agreement, then he can just claim he isn't satisfied and he won't need to pay. I expect that we'll meet in the middle and I'll get another 3 months out of him to cover it.

Its a pain in the ar*e have to do work below value but I recognise that its now a hugley competitive market and I need to differentiate my firm from, for example SJD, and the satisfaction clause is my way of doing this. Sometimes you need to suck it up and accept the fact that you can't achieve 100% projected profit from every client.

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What do you charge? Monthly PAYE, EOY accounts, Personal Tax return. From SJD its about £1300 p.a. which I'm starting to think is pretty steep as they don't seem to be offering anything more than say, Nixon Williams (apart from the personal tax return); even with the personal return NW come in at about 900. How competitive are you?
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[Alan @ BroomeAffinity]

£80 per month for the full service. Covers your PAYE (incl y/e filing), VAT return calcs, director's SA return, annual accounts etc. There are absolutely no add-ons. Always available to clients. This is written in to the agreement and you get my mobile number in case I am out or if you need to contact me in the evening. HTH. If you anything else, just ask - or PM.

[Ruprect]

£80 per month for the full service. Covers your PAYE (incl y/e filing), VAT return calcs, director's SA return, annual accounts etc. There are absolutely no add-ons. Always available to clients. This is written in to the agreement and you get my mobile number in case I am out or if you need to contact me in the evening. HTH. If you anything else, just ask - or PM.

Have you got a website? Thanks for the info; am paid up for a few more months but may well look you up then ;-)

[NotAllThere]

I'll crush you like a cock-a-roach

If I was in the UK, I'd sign up with you, just on the strength of your sig.

[slavetothesystem]

I'm sorry, but what made you think that accountants work on a monthly basis depending on your "employment"?

Do you understand the concept of "yearly returns"? You realise you can't squeeze these into a 3 month period for instance?

Who told you you could do this?

Did you speak to the accountants to explain your concerns or did you just carry on regardless knowing that you surely must be right?

People like you, and I'm sorry to be so harsh, do not have the necessary acumen to be legally in charge of a limited corporation.

Why is it that people like you expect it on a plate, moan when it doesn't go your way and yet have never spent a penny on basic research that any true businessman would have carried out.

Let me direct you to this site that you may find a little more beneficial for someone with your attitude:

http://www.accountingweb.co.uk/cgi-b...%20%25B%20%25Y

I do understand your concept of a 'yearly return', but for example if the contractor only gets work for 1 month, how is it fair to stretch or exaggerate this into 12 months service charge? I (being the contractor) 'work' in a sweaty tulip hole for 12 hours to earn my pay, and am quite willing to pay an account to complete all relevant form etc, but thats ink on paper.
And you right mouthpiece, i dont have the knowledge or exsperience to manage a limited corporation, but for £500 i was hoping on receiving more than a f@uckin flashdrive with a spreadsheet on it.
When a man can extort money because of a degree or plaque on his office wall, its an unfair practice and certainly not a SERVICE!

[SueEllen]

I do understand your concept of a 'yearly return', but for example if the contractor only gets work for 1 month, how is it fair to stretch or exaggerate this into 12 months service charge? I (being the contractor) 'work' in a sweaty tulip hole for 12 hours to earn my pay, and am quite willing to pay an account to complete all relevant form etc, but thats ink on paper.
And you right mouthpiece, i dont have the knowledge or exsperience to manage a limited corporation, but for £500 i was hoping on receiving more than a f@uckin flashdrive with a spreadsheet on it.
When a man can extort money because of a degree or plaque on his office wall, its an unfair practice and certainly not a SERVICE!

I'm going to throw my toys out of the pram because I didn't bother to ask questions at the beginning or read the useful first timers guides on here and the web, because I thought running a limited company involved doing anything.

[ruskithebear]

And you right mouthpiece, i dont have the knowledge or exsperience to manage a limited corporation, but for £500 i was hoping on receiving more than a f@uckin flashdrive with a spreadsheet on it.

When a man can extort money because of a degree or plaque on his office wall, its an unfair practice and certainly not a SERVICE!

Please enlighten us as to what you were expecting?

I really hope your going back to permidom............................

[Archangel]

£80 per month for the full service. Covers your PAYE (incl y/e filing), VAT return calcs, director's SA return, annual accounts etc. There are absolutely no add-ons. Always available to clients. This is written in to the agreement and you get my mobile number in case I am out or if you need to contact me in the evening. HTH. If you anything else, just ask - or PM.

What about just the annual accounts? I do all the PAYE and VAT (incl y/e filing) and SA, just need my spreadsheet (or yours) turning into yearend accounts and filing with CoHse and Hector. What would you charge for that? PM is you like.