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Getting Paid For Inside Roles

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    #11
    The question is about 'inside' gigs. However non-assessed and outside gigs may also be paid via the models identified.

    Brollies increase risk.
    - Via the umbrella model, the worker provides the supply chain with personal credit while in the event of non-payment, the brolly's liability is limited to (hours worked * NMW) + holiday pay.

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      #12
      Originally posted by fabios View Post
      If ltd was an option for inside role wouldn't it give us more flexibility, e.g. salary sacrifice for a car? I still don't understand why umbrellas don't offer it.
      Just to clarify, are you asking:
      * Why don't umbrellas pay money to your limited company?
      Or:
      * Why don't umbrellas let you do salary sacrifice for a car?

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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
        Just to clarify, are you asking:
        * Why don't umbrellas pay money to your limited company?
        Or:
        * Why don't umbrellas let you do salary sacrifice for a car?
        My next post gives a hint.

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          #14
          Originally posted by hobnob View Post

          Just to clarify, are you asking:
          * Why don't umbrellas pay money to your limited company?
          Or:
          * Why don't umbrellas let you do salary sacrifice for a car?
          1) Because they can't - they would end up being caught by the MSC legislation (I have rather expensive legal advice to that effect)

          2) Because no leasing firm wishes to do it (although I should check with the new MD of Amaze as he seemed to be getting close last time I spoke to him).
          merely at clientco for the entertainment

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            #15
            Originally posted by Protagoras View Post
            The question is about 'inside' gigs. However non-assessed and outside gigs may also be paid via the models identified.

            Brollies increase risk.
            - Via the umbrella model, the worker provides the supply chain with personal credit while in the event of non-payment, the brolly's liability is limited to (hours worked * NMW) + holiday pay.
            A properly audited umbrella shouldn't - the issue is where an umbrella is (quietly) paying people before the agency pays the umbrella and then "something" occurs.
            merely at clientco for the entertainment

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              #16
              Originally posted by eek View Post

              A properly audited umbrella shouldn't - the issue is where an umbrella is (quietly) paying people before the agency pays the umbrella and then "something" occurs.
              I think there's also an issue where the agency doesn't pay the brolly - then the worker cannot recover all losses.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Protagoras View Post

                I think there's also an issue where the agency doesn't pay the brolly - then the worker cannot recover all losses.
                I would expect any umbrella not chasing up payment to not get very far long term.

                my issue is more the risk of contagion - where something that has nothing to do with you results in you losing out.
                merely at clientco for the entertainment

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