Online filing - IR incentives

[Simon SJDaccountancy]

Re: Your Guide

OK, while we are at it, would you mind please justifying your contract rate to me? I am quite sure that equally well qualified people could do the job just as well for less money.

Also, would you please justify the prices that you charge your MX5 car parts at?

Ridiculous isn' it?

The nice thing about a market economy is that we are all free set to set our own prices for things. It is up to the consumer to decide whether they want to pay that price. If they do, you have a business, if they don't, you don't.

Every one of our clients was informed about this one off charge months in advance, and given the choice. Out of interest over 99% of our clients decided to take us up on the offer.

Incidentally, why are you holding yourselves out to be some kind of contractors spokesperson when your colleague earlier in this thread described "most contractors as stupid and lazy"?

[fiddleabout]

Re: Your Guide

Just an update to say that I got the numbers from the paying in book (which the IR do quote as the correct source and I'd just used last years P35) and got the registration process completed easily and quickly.

Just waiting on the confirmation code now from the IR which shouldn't take very long at all if they are as good with that as they were with the personal ones.

Looks to be a doddle so far.

[Bradley]

Re:Fees

From ICAEW - www.icaew.co.uk/index.cfm...MNXI_30245 - re Fees

Fee Quotations and Estimates
2.0 A member or member firm should, at the earliest opportunity, discuss and explain the basis on which fees will be calculated and, where practicable, the estimated initial fee. Fees should be determined by reference to:

- the seniority and professional expertise of the persons necessarily engaged on the work;
- the time expended by each;
- the degree of risk and responsibility which the work entails;
- the priority and importance of the work to the client;
- together with any expenses properly incurred.

The arrangements agreed should be confirmed in writing prior to the commencement of any engagement, normally in an engagement letter, including a confirmation of any estimate, quotation or other indication, and where the basis of future fees will differ from that of initial fees, the basis on which such fees will be rendered. Where there is no engagement letter the member or member firm should confirm the initial discussion in writing to the client as soon as practicable

[Simon SJDaccountancy]

Re: Re:Fees

Thanks Bradley,

Nice to know we followed the correct procedure to the letter.

[Bradley]

Re:Re:Fees

I assume that you told your clients it was 30 minutes work at a chargeout rate of £250 per hour then?

[Simon SJDaccountancy]

Re: Re:Re:Fees

Well, you kind of missed the point of my previous posts.

To spell it out for you, I don't need to justify our charges to you. You are not a client, nor is your friend fiddle.

Quote:

"it would appear that the majority of IT specialist accountants will do it from free"

Good luck to them. Your oft recommended accountant isn't one of them though is he?

I shan't be posting to this thread any further. All clients have my direct email address, so am sure they will take it up directly with me if they choose.

[fiddleabout]

Re: Re:Re:Fees

> I shan't be posting to this thread any further.

Nice to see that you know when it's best to stop digging.

BTW I didn't actually say that our accountant is charging - just that they said that they were considering charging. I have not yet given up the hope that they can be shamed into doing the honourable thing.

I fear though that like your good self those £ signs in front of their eyes will cloud their judgement. This is very big money after all - they want to charge me 2 months accountancy fees for a few minutes work which overall should actully save them time - in your case it's only just over one and half of course despite your charge being 25% higher.

[fiddleabout]

Re: Re:Re:Fees

> - the seniority and professional expertise of the persons necessarily engaged on the work;

and done by an office junior

[Rhino]

Re: Re:Re:Fees

Well it doesn't look like Simon from SJD is prepared to answer my oft repeated question about how he can justify charge £125 + VAT for online PAYE.........

..........it would appear that the majority of IT specialist accountants have answered it for him ie. they will do this online PAYE for free :rollin

Simon - are you related to Tony Blair by any chance ?

[Rhino]

Re: Re:Re:Fees

Well, you kind of missed the point of my previous posts.

I don't think there is very much about you or SJD accountancy that I have missed the point of Simon but if it makes you feel better.....

To spell it out for you, I don't need to justify our charges to you. You are not a client, nor is your friend fiddle.

That is true but dismiss us at your peril Fiddle & I are not exorcizable

Quote:

"it would appear that the majority of IT specialist accountants will do it from free"

Good luck to them. Your oft recommended accountant isn't one of them though is he?

That's very true but we exposed them for their bad judgement, not you. They do however charge £50 a month for a similar accountancy service to the one that you charge £80 a month for, so they did actually have alternative legitimate ways of getting money out of their clients

I shan't be posting to this thread any further. All clients have my direct email address, so am sure they will take it up directly with me if they choose

Your clients apparently received notification of this charge way back in October 2004 and not a one of them has mentioned the issue - I guess you deserve each other.

If I were you I would not have posted at all on this thread - it is impossible to fight a war without weapons.

I shall miss this thread without your input Simon just like our American cousins miss a turkey shoot.
Just be heartened to know that you will earn a large amount of money from online PAYE but every SJD client that Fiddle and I enlighten will cost you £125 + VAT.

Have a nice weekend