Originally posted by Fred Bloggs
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Deliveroo claims victory in self-employment case
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Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View PostTake your point, but can't an UBER driver substitute his mate who is also an UBER or private hire driver instead? I would substitute another professional engineer, I guess you'd sub with whatever your discipline is too. On that basis, I think an UBER driver can indeed, sub without UBER even knowing.
One thing many customers particularly female customers say when asked what they like about Uber is as soon as they book a cab they know from the outset which driver and the license plate of the car that will be picking them up. Many mini-cab firms won't tell you this and black cabs don't either.
On the other hand when you order food by Deliveroo like when you order a takeaway pizza you don't give a feck about who delivers it."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Btw I just read City Sprint, who lost in an employment tribunal, have changed the contracts for all their workers.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...ge-holiday-payLast edited by SueEllen; 15 November 2017, 10:26."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View PostTake your point, but can't an UBER driver substitute his mate who is also an UBER or private hire driver instead? I would substitute another professional engineer, I guess you'd sub with whatever your discipline is too. On that basis, I think an UBER driver can indeed, sub without UBER even knowing.
I suppose in theory Deliveroo1 can accept a job then give it to Deliveroo2 to actually deliver, similar "theory" to Contractor1 accepting a security clearance-dependent contract and substitute in Contractor2 with no questions askedComment
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Originally posted by pr1 View PostWith Uber if uber1 accepts the job, their name and number plate appear on the app so the customer sees who they are expecting, so if uber2 turns up there will be an issue
I suppose in theory Deliveroo1 can accept a job then give it to Deliveroo2 to actually deliver, similar "theory" to Contractor1 accepting a security clearance-dependent contract and substitute in Contractor2 with no questions askedPublic Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostNope because they need to have recorded who is going to pick you up.
One thing many customers particularly female customers say when asked what they like about Uber is as soon as they book a cab they know from the outset which driver and the license plate of the car that will be picking them up. Many mini-cab firms won't tell you this and black cabs don't either.
On the other hand when you order food by Deliveroo like when you order a takeaway pizza you don't give a feck about who delivers it.Comment
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Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View PostIf UBER driver #2 sits in UBER driver #1's seat and drives #1's car, how does UBER know? UBER driver #1 has then successfully substituted. UBER can then claim their drivers have the same right to substitute as the Deliveroo riders and they are not employees since employees cannot substitute as per the Deliveroo case. The law is an utter mess. It just shouldn't be like this.
But if a driver #2 has a conviction for GBH or sexual assault and then does it to a passenger then Uber and driver #1 would also be in trouble."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostYou might be a bit miffed if it turns out that you Deliveroo 'associate' turns out to have multiple convictions for poisoning."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostUber doesn't.
But if a driver #2 has a conviction for GBH or sexual assault and then does it to a passenger then Uber and driver #1 would also be in trouble.Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
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Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View PostAgreed, and likely both would lose their taxi licences. But that does not stop #2 from driving #1's car for UBER as a sub. Hence, if I were UBER, I'd be making the case that my people were just like Deliveroo's. It really, really, is a total mess. Different vested interests pulling the courts in different directions. The lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank. Now, if only there were a statutory definition of the different types of worker, all our problems would be solved
If Uber do a Deliveroo they lose the USP."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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