Permanent Residency for European

[kudeki]

Hi all,

I'm a contractor, working as director of a limited company. I'm in the process of filling in my application for permanent residency.

I've got a doubt wether I need to fill in the self employment section or not (and send the corresponding documents for it). Anyone knows how to fill it in for contractors?

Thanks

[stek]

If it's PR and not ILR, i.e. You are applying under EU immigration rules, there is no requirement for any financial disclosure.

[Paddy]

If it's PR and not ILR, i.e. You are applying under EU immigration rules, there is no requirement for any financial disclosure.

Not sure about this because (a) My Dutch friend (Ltd Co contractor) has to supply financial information. And (b) My application for residency (leading to passport) in Europe requires (i) financial guarantee of adequate income. (ii) guarantee not to claim benefits and (iii) proof of medical insurance cover.

[NotAllThere]

You are an employee of your company. You're not self-employed.

[stek]

Not sure about this because (a) My Dutch friend (Ltd Co contractor) has to supply financial information. And (b) My application for residency (leading to passport) in Europe requires (i) financial guarantee of adequate income. (ii) guarantee not to claim benefits and (iii) proof of medical insurance cover.

You sure that's not for UK ILR? It's not possible for a Dutch citizen to apply for EEA PR as he'd already have it, as we all do when we exercise a treaty right.

Pretty sure under EEA rules there are no financial tests.

[kudeki]

You are an employee of your company. You're not self-employed.

That was where my question was coming from.

Thanks!

[squarepeg]

You sure that's not for UK ILR? It's not possible for a Dutch citizen to apply for EEA PR as he'd already have it, as we all do when we exercise a treaty right.

Pretty sure under EEA rules there are no financial tests.

Oh, yes there are: https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...5-12-04_KP.pdf. Getting PR is not a given, and don't even think of appealing the reject decision under the Immigration Act (2014). See https://www.freemovement.org.uk/cate...rt-of-justice/

[sal]

Oh, yes there are: https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...5-12-04_KP.pdf. Getting PR is not a given, and don't even think of appealing the reject decision under the Immigration Act (2014). See https://www.freemovement.org.uk/cate...rt-of-justice/

Have you even read the documents you posted? Becasue if you had you would know that they don't ask for any financial documents for the applicant. They ask for some financial documents for a Sponsor, but that's not what the OP is about. Do you know what you are even talking about?

EU nationals gain PR automatically after spending 5 years in the UK, no need for applications or any documentation do gain that right. What you linked are guidelines for application for the certificate proving that you have PR. AFAIK the only real use of that certificate for EU citizens is if at later point they want to apply for citizenship and UK passport.

[squarepeg]

Have you even read the documents you posted? Becasue if you had you would know that they don't ask for any financial documents for the applicant. They ask for some financial documents for a Sponsor, but that's not what the OP is about. Do you know what you are even talking about?

EU nationals gain PR automatically after spending 5 years in the UK, no need for applications or any documentation do gain that right. What you linked are guidelines for application for the certificate proving that you have PR. AFAIK the only real use of that certificate for EU citizens is if at later point they want to apply for citizenship and UK passport.

And how will they prove their PR status? With a document that proves it. They (may) get it, when you fill out this form... https://www.gov.uk/government/upload..._PR__03-16.pdf See Section 9 (A) in both the guidance notes and the form.

Yes, the right is automatic, getting the relevant documents isn't. And since he new Immigration Act (2014) requires landlords to confirm the immigration status of the tenants and the banks to confirm the immigration status of the customers, getting a document that confirms one's PR status is going to become a necessity.

Also, regarding appeals... https://www.freemovement.org.uk/gove...ill-skyrocket/:

When the Immigration Act 2016 is implemented and immigration appeals almost all become exercisable only on departure from the UK, the number of appeals would be likely to reduce even further. Paying a huge fee for an appeal at which one is not even permitted to be present seems particularly unlikely.

EU migrants are those most likely to be affected by this change; many appeal rights have already disappeared with the Immigration Act 2014 and there is likely to be a huge surge in the number of EU migrant tribunal appeals as some European nationals struggle to establish their right to remain in the UK in their aftermath of Brexit.

You got that right, you have to pay up to £800 and *leave* the country if you want to appeal the HO's PR decision. If you have links to documents that contradict this, I'd love to see them.

[sal]

Yes, the right is automatic, getting the relevant documents isn't. And since he new Immigration Act (2014) requires landlords to confirm the immigration status of the tenants and the banks to confirm the immigration status of the customers, getting a document that confirms one's PR status is going to become a necessity.

Yeah Landlords have to confirm immigration status which is somewhat different than PR status. Until something changes EU nationals have the right to live in the UK freely - all the Landlords need to do/are doing is to check that the tenant have EU passport which satisfies the Immigration Act (2014) requirements.

The only real use for PR certificate (the only place where you need to prove your PR with a single piece of paper) for EU nationals is for the UK citizenship application. With brexit and all the uncertainty I don't think that they should even bother with either one.

The appeal process is largely irrelevant in this discussion as it implies your application was rejected, and the PR status is not questioned in the OP