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    #11
    Standard stuff if your working, for example, in the gambling industry as I currently am. Had to do it on my first day of the contract. Not a big deal at all. Can't see IR35 being an issue.

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      #12
      Standard stuff in banking. What's really gutting is when you find out the money laundering training is actual about preventing it.
      The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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        #13
        Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
        Standard stuff in banking. What's really gutting is when you find out the money laundering training is actual about preventing it.
        Given the way the banks have behaved over the recent years I would of thought it was more of a comedy piece....

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          #14
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          Just do it..... There is enough stuff in there to prove its for everyone....
          Originally posted by malvolio View Post
          If everyone has to do it it can't differentiate permie and contractor so cannot affect an IR35 decision.
          Ask the client if they make all electricians, plumbers, commercial refuse collectors, document destruction operatives etc. fill one of these stupid things out every time they come on-site.

          And before anyone jumps in about how "it's not the same thing", with regard to this nonsense, it is. These "health & wellbeing" forms are for employees, and you, the electrician, the plumber and the binman are not employees.

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            #15
            Every financial services company has been doing this for 5 years now.

            Do it. Or get another gig. Gigs in financial services are hard to come by these days.

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              #16
              Originally posted by billybiro View Post
              Ask the client if they make all electricians, plumbers, commercial refuse collectors, document destruction operatives etc. fill one of these stupid things out every time they come on-site.

              And before anyone jumps in about how "it's not the same thing", with regard to this nonsense, it is. These "health & wellbeing" forms are for employees, and you, the electrician, the plumber and the binman are not employees.
              The policies on who does these tulip courses are dependent on what role the worker fulfills.

              So if you do work for one part of the business you do one type of course but for another part you do a different one.

              In addition most finance companies rent their offices so the plumbers, electricians etc are workers for the company who own the building not them.

              However if a plumber sued them because of stress and won, they would be made to do the courses as well.

              It's all about not getting sued under H&S legislation.
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                #17
                Many companies are very big on anti corruption these days. They will force you to do the business ethics training courses and a refresher every 6 or 12 months. If you refuse you will be sacked, simple as that.
                Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
                Officially CUK certified - Thick as f**k.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
                  Many companies are very big on anti corruption these days. They will force you to do the business ethics training courses and a refresher every 6 or 12 months. If you refuse you will be sacked, simple as that.
                  We aren't sacked, we have our contract terminated.
                  The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by billybiro View Post
                    Ask the client if they make all electricians, plumbers, commercial refuse collectors, document destruction operatives etc. fill one of these stupid things out every time they come on-site.

                    And before anyone jumps in about how "it's not the same thing", with regard to this nonsense, it is. These "health & wellbeing" forms are for employees, and you, the electrician, the plumber and the binman are not employees.
                    If the end client brought in a contract electrician, to beef up the on-site facilities team for 6 months, you can be sure they would be put through whatever standard courses the permie electricians have to do.

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