Inside IR35 - no dividend payments at all?

[northernladuk]

IR35 is de-facto dead, its kept around to scare newbies into handing over their cash.

Erm.. Wow...

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

IR35 is de-facto dead, its kept around to scare newbies into handing over their cash.

Really? Anyone told HMRC

[Unix]

Erm.. Wow...

Really? Anyone told HMRC

They know already, only people with an agenda would deny this, (sellers of IR35 products) and HMRC forum plants (NLUK)

[northernladuk]

They know already, only people with an agenda would deny this, (sellers of IR35 products) and HMRC forum plants (NLUK)

Have you tried the log off button?

[Unix]

Have you tried the log off button?

You would like that, to silence those telling the truth.

[Whoknows]

IR35 is de-facto dead, its kept around to scare newbies into handing over their cash.

Tell that to my friend who has just been told to hand over £80k.

[Unix]

Tell that to my friend who has just been told to hand over £80k.

So you say

[northernladuk]

So you say

Do you not thinks it's dead (which I'm sure it isn't and will be resurrecting again very soon) because people have put a lot of thought and effort is fighting HMRC off to the point you can be happy in your ignorance for the time being?

What's your views on Apr17?

[mudskipper]

They know already, only people with an agenda would deny this, (sellers of IR35 products) and HMRC forum plants (NLUK)

I think that for a long time IR35 has been 'manageable' - this was achieved by gaining clarity on the criteria through case law (largely thanks to the purveyors of those insurance products) so that we could ensure our contract terms and working practices fell outside; and by purchasing protection for the statistically unlikely event that we were investigated. But there is a new focus on it; we may be left alone for 2016, but there seems little doubt that the net will be tightened in the not too distant future.

[Qdos Contractor]

I'll get an up to date number in the morning, but last time I asked our consultants we had 12 live IR35 cases on the go. We've closed quite a few down over the last few months too.

It's not at 2003 levels, but it's certainly not dead. I'm sure other specialist firms have similar numbers, plus accountants and people who are 'going it alone'.

I promise I'm not making it up! Anyone who wants to is welcome to come to our offices and meet our consultants who work on the cases.