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Am I caught by IR35 or not ?

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    #11
    Originally posted by Reckoner View Post
    I have been paying myself a salary of £640/month and taking the rest in dividends. I have instructed my accountant to operate my payroll accordingly.
    What do you do? What's your current contract role?
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      #12
      Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
      If the answer to all the above questions is yes and that's a genuine reflection of the way that you work and not just what's written into a contract then you will be outside IR35.
      I can answer yes to all those questions apart from sending a substitute, although I think my contract is IR35 friendly as it says that "the agency shall only utilise the services of suitable & competent personnel in providing the services".

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        #13
        Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
        What do you do? What's your current contract role?
        I am an Engineer working at Ford Motor Co.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DaveB View Post
          The two things are not related. IR35 depends on your contract and your working arrangements. The agency reporting requirements are a sperate legal requiremtn from HMRC on them.

          You should get your contract checked by one of the recommended advisors on here and make sure your working arrangements are such that they don't contradict your contract (assuming it is IR35 friendly, if it isnt get it changed.).
          If IR35 & the agency reporting regulations are not related, what are the reporting regulations for ?
          Last edited by Reckoner; 27 August 2015, 12:53.

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            #15
            Originally posted by teapot418 View Post
            There are (currently) three key "pillars" of IR35 - mutuality of obligation; Supervision, Direction and/or Control; and Right of Substitution - which have little relevance to your list above.

            Suggest that you read up about IR35 - there's a guide on the right IR35 Legislation - Advice, Help and Information for UK Contractors , or IPSE have a good guide for members. Get your contract reviewed, and be vigilant in your working practices. Take out insurance.
            I think my contract is IR35 friendly:

            For Mutuality of obligations it says that the agency are not obliged to offer ongoing contracts to me nor am I obliged to accept such contracts if offered. I am not obliged to make my services available. Specifically both parties declare that they do not wish to create or imply mutuality of obligations whatsoever.

            For Control it says the agency shall not control, nor have the right to control as to how my company perform the services. The agency recognises that my company offers specialist services at a high level of expertise and as such I cannot be told how to perform the services or the manner in which they are performed.

            For Right of Substitution it says my company shall only utilise the services of suitable and competent personnel in providing the services. My company may enter into any arrangement or agreement or provide any services to any other undertaking or business, provided that such arrangement does not conflict with the interest of the agency.

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              #16
              Working practices trump the contract. You started off on completely the wrong track. IR35 is on a contract by contract basis. It has f'all to do with most of the stuff you put.

              I'd start by reading the newbie guides to the right and start doing some research. It's not difficult to get a basic grasp of IR35 and other aspects of the way you work you have completely failed to grasp. Hint, you can't opt out of AWR.

              Time to get a bit more knowledgeable about what you do IMO.
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