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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
    Well, blow me! Same amount of RAM I have inside my Windows lap top (32GB).

    Shame mines almost 4 years old.....

    You couldn't make it up
    The Windows laptop that I'm using at the moment has 64GB RAM. I don't think I really needed to go that far, but better safe than sorry I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    I see where you are coming from. But keyboard, screen, weight and battery are also important. Not all i7s are equal and my i5 out performs my Lenovo i7.

    So performance is really important to me.

    Quality of the hardware is also important.
    Yes, I understand. Fact is the Core i7 CPU in a Windows laptop and the more expensive alternative come from the same semi conductor fab facility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sal View Post
    Let me guess at the resolution of the display, battery life and weight - 1366 x 768 / 3h / 2.5kg

    by your logic, why pay £30-40k for MB/BMW/Audi, when you can get a Dacia for less than £10k
    Sorry, the analogy holds no water. As I pointed out up there ^^^^ the Core i7 CPU is exactly same whether you buy a BMW/Merc laptop or a Dacia laptop. I do understand what you say about the other stuff, but as I said earlier, the difference between GBP 399 and over GBP 2000 can't be justified by such misleading and simple analogies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
    Sorry, the analogy holds no water. As I pointed out up there ^^^^ the Core i7 CPU is exactly same whether you buy a BMW/Merc laptop or a Dacia laptop. I do understand what you say about the other stuff, but as I said earlier, the difference between GBP 399 and over GBP 2000 can't be justified by such misleading and simple analogies.
    I don't think anyone needs to justify their laptops to other people on this forum.

    I understand your point but don't get defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBW View Post
    The Windows laptop that I'm using at the moment has 64GB RAM. I don't think I really needed to go that far, but better safe than sorry I guess.
    I guess with 64GB ram you are running VMs?

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    I do NEED a laptop, as I don't have one that I can use for a new gig (using my own kit).

    I would LIKE a MBP, as I PREFER OSX to Windows.

    So I'm okay with paying £££ for one (but maybe not £££+ a bit more for one that *may* get some useful upgrades later this year).

    The sensible thing to do would be to buy a cheaper Windows laptop. But if I have a choice to get what I prefer, I'll probably go with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    I don't think anyone needs to justify their laptops to other people on this forum.

    I understand your point but don't get defensive.
    Absolutely agree with you on that point.

    Any impression of umbridge given by me is purely unintentional. As baffled as I might be, folks pay their money etc.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Bloggs View Post
    Sorry, the analogy holds no water. As I pointed out up there ^^^^ the Core i7 CPU is exactly same whether you buy a BMW/Merc laptop or a Dacia laptop. I do understand what you say about the other stuff, but as I said earlier, the difference between GBP 399 and over GBP 2000 can't be justified by such misleading and simple analogies.
    Well i guess Renault <> Dacia would have been a better analogy, giving the fact they use the same engine if you translate CPU to Engine in the analogy. One of them being twice the price of the other. Or comparing Audi A3 to A6 with the same engine and wondering why the later is more expensive.

    The point is you can't compare £400 to a £2k laptop on CPU alone, the price difference goes into a number of other components, plus brand name "tax" and customer service.

    CPU is by far the least utilized component unless you're doing something specific. Web browsing chews through RAM like crazy and HDD is just slowing everything down.

    I'm sorry if you fell for a sale pitch that your £400 laptop is just a s good as the £2000 laptop because it has the same Core i7 inside, and the people buying the £2000 stuff are crazy/stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woohoo View Post
    I guess with 64GB ram you are running VMs?
    Yes. Normally only one at a time, but I might need more than one. And having my own Oracle instance that I can fire up when I need to takes a fair amount of RAM and disk space!
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    The main problem is that you have already found a solution and are trying to justify it.

    Start with the problem.

    You need a new 'device' which has the following features

    1) Light and easy to carry
    2) Powerful processor
    3) Much Ram
    4) Under £x
    5) Does it need an apple logo on it?

    etc etc etc

    then go out and find out what you can buy which meets your needs and your budget.

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