Offshore Insurance Advice

[JimmyBobby]

Hello,

I am new to this forum and the contractor lifestyle and responsibilities, but I have done a significant amount of research into getting insurance. I know I need Professional Indemnity at £1million, Public and Employers Liability at £10million (or maybe £5million for PL) and finally, and most importantly, a form of offshore cover.

I know the insurance companies, their packages and whats included however I would be very grateful for your recommendations on any insurance brokers with offshore cover that you are happy with or you think I may have missed.

Thanks

[stek]

You don't need employers and why need offshore? And what is it?!

[JimmyBobby]

You don't need employers and why need offshore? And what is it?!

My contract requires me to have employers liability and I am pipe design consultant. offshore is anything not on land, as in my case oil rigs in the north sea

[Taita]

My contract requires me to have employers liability and I am pipe design consultant. offshore is anything not on land, as in my case oil rigs in the north sea

Talk to a broker. If you supply your services to a UK registered/based end client off shore becomes moot. Off shore only really is relevant in insurance terms when it influences where you would be sued.

[blakeyuk]

You don't need employers and why need offshore? And what is it?!

I needed it to get my current contract, as it supported the substition clause. It was only £20 a year so I didn't complain.

Blakey

[malvolio]

I needed it to get my current contract, as it supported the substition clause. It was only £20 a year so I didn't complain.

Blakey

Quite correct. ELI covers any subbies as well as employees and is compulsory. You can't have a valid RoS without it.

[Contreras]

Quite correct. ELI covers any subbies as well as employees and is compulsory. You can't have a valid RoS without it.

1. You can take out ELI at the point which it is needed - when you hire the employee or subbie.
2. If the subbie is another Ltd. Co. contractor through a contract for services they are not your employee.

If ELI is a condition of the contract then you need it. There may also be special situations where ELI is warranted when subbing through a B2B agreement even though it's not a legal requirement. It may also be true that ELI doesn't cost much, although that doesn't detract from 1. above.

But let's be clear: not having ELI does NOT invalidate your RoS.

[malvolio]

1. You can take out ELI at the point which it is needed - when you hire the employee or subbie.
2. If the subbie is another Ltd. Co. contractor through a contract for services they are not your employee.

If ELI is a condition of the contract then you need it. There may also be special situations where ELI is warranted when subbing through a B2B agreement even though it's not a legal requirement. It may also be true that ELI doesn't cost much, although that doesn't detract from 1. above.

But let's be clear: not having ELI does NOT invalidate your RoS.

Let's be clear: yes it does if you don't have it. It demonstrates that the RoS is a sham. Arguably, only buying it when you need it demonstrates you weren't intending to supply a substitute. For £20 a year, why faff around?

[Wanderer]

Let's be clear: yes it does if you don't have it. It demonstrates that the RoS is a sham. Arguably, only buying it when you need it demonstrates you weren't intending to supply a substitute.

No, it shows that you were not intending to engage a subcontractor/substitute as an employee of your company. That doesn't rule out a B2B relationship.

For £20 a year, why faff around?

Yes indeed. The argument is moot because that is the correct answer. Here's your £20.