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    Quote Originally Posted by pauldee View Post
    I don't understand. If they've contacted you directly why do you need an agency?
    Various reasons.
    1) PS body not setup to do contractor payments, or have the legal nouse, the contractors LTD wonít be on the PSL, procurement rules
    2) [TINFOIL HAT] the IR35 status isnít as clear as made out and the PS body want as much distance as possible [/TINFOIL HAT]
    3) PS HR refuse/donít understand contractors

    Itís not uncommon in private sector either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauldee View Post
    I don't understand. If they've contacted you directly why do you need an agency?
    If you knew anything about the complex frameworks in PS you would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance View Post
    Various reasons.
    1) PS body not setup to do contractor payments, or have the legal nouse, the contractors LTD wonít be on the PSL, procurement rules
    2) [TINFOIL HAT] the IR35 status isnít as clear as made out and the PS body want as much distance as possible [/TINFOIL HAT]
    3) PS HR refuse/donít understand contractors

    Itís not uncommon in private sector either.
    Non of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance View Post
    Various reasons.
    1) PS body not setup to do contractor payments, or have the legal nouse, the contractors LTD wonít be on the PSL, procurement rules
    2) [TINFOIL HAT] the IR35 status isnít as clear as made out and the PS body want as much distance as possible [/TINFOIL HAT]
    3) PS HR refuse/donít understand contractors

    Itís not uncommon in private sector either.
    So the PS are insisting on agencies and now insisting on umbrella contractors for every contractor? Sounds like an appallingly inefficient use of public money. I wonder what the papers would make of it? Find a link between a senior civil servant and an agency/umbrella company and you'll have quite a juicy story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauldee View Post
    So the PS are insisting on agencies and now insisting on umbrella contractors for every contractor? Sounds like an appallingly inefficient use of public money. I wonder what the papers would make of it? Find a link between a senior civil servant and an agency/umbrella company and you'll have quite a juicy story.
    His list is wrong. PS have very complex engagement frameworks and a lot of hoops to jump through to get in and win work. It's there to make sure there isn't the link you mention which is why, as much as a PS body wants a contractor they have to put them through the framework. They cannot just issue a B2B contract and get on with.

    This isn't unique to PS. Many private sector Co's have PSL so even though the manager found you, you'll still have to go through an agency if it is their policy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    His list is wrong.
    What you describe is what I called 'procurement rules'. The tinfoil hat bit was a tinfoil hat bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotus_andy View Post
    There are about 500 on the list!
    Have you agreed a rate inclusive of margin? If so, Hays are likely to give you the best rate (and likely to take the job although they may grumble). Or Badenoch and Clark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Have you agreed a rate inclusive of margin? If so, Hays are likely to give you the best rate (and likely to take the job although they may grumble). Or Badenoch and Clark.

    From my limited exposure to the new world order with PS procurement, I think as long as the contractor has agreed a rate with the client, it doesn't matter which agency the contractor chooses from the list, as either it will be a fixed margin or the client will cover the margin hence why the agency is on the list as they are within tolerance.

    So from a contractor's point of view ensure the client has agreed the end rate and make sure anyone in the chain acknowledges that end rate will be what is on the contract you end up with.

    As for Hays, I've used them once (a few years ago now) and had no trouble at all. They paid weekly, on a Friday if they received the approved timesheet by Tuesday IIRC. The only hassle, which probably happens 'everywhere' now is the need to present certain docs (passport, proof of address, etc) in person at one of their offices to prove you are who you are. Though they are so ubiquitous it's probably less hassle to go to the local office than risk losing the docs in the post.
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    Give Andy Piper at Mercator a call heís one one the best agents I have come across.

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