Moving into DevOps - have you done it?

[Bluenose]

I can write perl and actually really enjoy programming but never had any real work experience with only ever done programming on my own personal project...

Cheers

Python and Agile skills training will not be wasted time.

If you can train to understand AWS+Automation+Hadoop toolset like Hortonworks I think that is a good thing to do at this point in time. If you are willing to get back to the command-line

From what I can see some companies have started to re-write many of their internally developed applications and plonking them onto a AWS platform using Devops tools and process (yep, chef, puppet, jenkins, ruby, alphabet soup) as a pipeline.

Some of the money on offer for such skill-sets, for what is simply 3rd line server support work, is ridiculous and I can't see it being maintained once more of the Linux, Solaris and AIX hands spot what is happening and decide to cross-train.

What I think we are seeing in the market is simply a hang-over of too many admins (Indian's based offshore are especially exposed at this time simply because there are so many of them) only being able to use the GUI.

The long-term rate expectations of such skill sets is therefore dependent on how many of these GUI only jockeys being able to train into the command line.

[cojak]

Just today's latest fad, by the time you've got your head round it and garnered enough experience to sell on the contractor market it'll be dead and gone.

I've moved a bit sideways into Puppet, my natural home is Unix and latterly Linux including automatic deployments, and that's what I always end up falling back on cos Devops is a load of bollocks and and I really fail to see what Puppet adds to the mix apart from a nice gui a moron can understand.

Last place I was at we used Puppet to make changes and had to warn the business that it will break things, something a script and bit of thought would never do.

There, I've said it.

Legend.

(I really wish it weren't so and it was like in the books, but when best practice meets real life, real life usually wins...)

And while devs may find it rewarding, once the shine and promises have worn thin, Ops rarely do.

<says cojak who's up to her armpits in the stuff...>

[garethevans1986]

Yes currently doing DevOps, come from a background of .NET development and worked with TeamCity + Octopus Deploy for years. The current client is one of the biggest user of the tools above in the world....and has 140+ Dev Teams.

Working with TeamCity, Octopus Deploy, Docker, (lots of) Powershell, VSTS, TFS => Git Migrations. Unfortunatley using Azure as my background is AWS.