An Agency's View

[Major Hassle]

It works both ways. Ex bankers never do well in public contracts. They are far too desperate to JFDI rather than take their time to understand matters and work through the process.

I bounce in and out of Public Sector roles as I see fit and I would say that the PS guys are far better at over architecting than most of the private sector clients these days.

FTFY

[eek]

FTFY

Architecture is a fine line though. Personally I would prefer over engineered to the typical sticky back plastic approach I see elsewhere....

[Major Hassle]

Architecture is a fine line though. Personally I would prefer over engineered to the typical sticky back plastic approach I see elsewhere....

Over engineered means generally late, too expensive and not flexible enough to meet the business need for speed to market. Constant struggle....

[SueEllen]

Over engineered means generally late, too expensive and not flexible enough to meet the business need for speed to market. Constant struggle....

PS mainly doesn't have speed to market. They mainly have working until hardware/software is obsolete.

[bobspud]

Over engineered means generally late, too expensive and not flexible enough to meet the business need for speed to market. Constant struggle....

No it doesn't

Those symptoms come from failing to plan properly, assuming you can bypass procurement rules or process and letting senior stake holders set your projects delivery goals despite common sense and facts on the ground.

[Major Hassle]

No it doesn't

Those symptoms come from failing to plan properly, assuming you can bypass procurement rules or process and letting senior stake holders set your projects delivery goals despite common sense and facts on the ground.

LOL don't you just love this purist blue sky crap - welcome to the real world

[MrMarkyMark]

LOL don't you just love this purist blue sky crap - welcome to the real world

It can be that way though, depends on what you actually manage and own, providing you are any good in the first place, of course.

I agree 90% of the time it isn't like that though.

[perplexed]

Averaging 5 calls a day the past two weeks with regards to public sector roles - same place for the most part. I know they'll not fill them.

I assume either they'll end up recruiting plenty of fresh faced idealistic ( till reality beats them to a pulp ) grads as permies, outsource to an Indian IT company or more probably, pressure HR to agree to their view that key contractors are in fact outside based upon the information they've put into whatever tool emerges because otherwise a hell of a lot of arses will get kicked when the projects fail as contractors leave en masse.

[Semtex]

so this thread which had a catch title turned into a waste of 5 mins trawling through.

I think people are missing the elephant in the room here.

PS will offer quite a few opportunities for contractors seeing as many are jumping ship.

I don't buy the notion that decent contractors will not be interested. Contractors go where the money/opportunities are... Yes it may look as though the best money may be had in the Private sector, but watch the rates decline as more bodies competing.

Supply and Demand!

[MrMarkyMark]

so this thread which had a catch title turned into a waste of 5 mins trawling through.

I think people are missing the elephant in the room here.

PS will offer quite a few opportunities for contractors seeing as many are jumping ship.

I don't buy the notion that decent contractors will not be interested. Contractors go where the money/opportunities are... Yes it may look as though the best money may be had in the Private sector, but watch the rates decline as more bodies competing.

Supply and Demand!

Good Luck

Contractors go where the money/opportunities are...

They do indeed, its called the "bottom line"