Brollies want SDC for all

[LondonManc]

The solution is very simple. Change it from S, D OR C to S, D AND C

[PurpleGorilla]

All of which can be tested in the law courts; where up to now precious few contractors have fallen fowl of IR35.

[TheFaQQer]

All of which can be tested in the law courts; where up to now precious few contractors have fallen fowl of IR35.

Probably because HMRC are chicken.

[bluemonkey71]

Lets hope that rally ruffles some feathers

[LondonManc]

I don't eggspect much good to come of this.

[PurpleGorilla]

Lol!

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Bonjour you lot I am actually on my hols but this thread has been brought to my attention so I thought I'd pop in to put your minds at rest that I haven;t changed my position. This was taken from a closed linked in group (needless to say I am not best chuffed that that can happen but ho hum). Myself and other umbrella company CEO's often post on there to discuss impending changes to legislation - much as I do on here.

The point I was making was not that I advocate SDC being applied to absolutely everything from here on in - merely that, from a point of view of a logical step forward, it would make sense that it was applied to everything. I have gained an idea of how HMRC think over the years and it seems to me that they have thought up the idea of having a single determining factor for status and have hung their hat on it - therefore it would make sense to them to apply it to IR35.

Hope that clears that up - can I go back to my hols now

p.s. just had an email from Lucy - it's out!! So we will know what's what after disecting a couple of hundred pages of HMRC speak

[Zero Liability]

The solution is very simple. Change it from S, D OR C to S, D AND C

Just from skimreading it, it looks like they have.

[LondonManc]

The point I was making was not that I advocate SDC being applied to absolutely everything from here on in - merely that, from a point of view of a logical step forward, it would make sense that it was applied to everything. I have gained an idea of how HMRC think over the years and it seems to me that they have thought up the idea of having a single determining factor for status and have hung their hat on it - therefore it would make sense to them to apply it to IR35.

Hope that clears that up - can I go back to my hols now :howell

Sorry Lisa, but applying SDC to everything would make no sense whatsoever. I cannot imagine many situations where a contractor is not subject to one of S, D OR C at some point in their contract, no matter what industry.

Painters and decorators - I want my hall, stairs and landing doing in magnolia with white skirting boards. Inside IR35

Plumber - I want this sink that I've bought fitting on that wall next to the bath.

Architect - I want a house designing that will fit on this plot of land. It must have four or five bedroom, two of which are ensuite and a garage with room for two cars.

Civil Engineer - We need a bridge over the river from this road to this road. It must be two lanes in both directions and should be fixed since no boats need to pass under it.

IT consultant - We need this suite of reports building. They must adhere to corporate colours and include the company logo in the top right corner.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Sorry Lisa, but applying SDC to everything would make no sense whatsoever. I cannot imagine many situations where a contractor is not subject to one of S, D OR C at some point in their contract, no matter what industry.

Painters and decorators - I want my hall, stairs and landing doing in magnolia with white skirting boards. Inside IR35

Plumber - I want this sink that I've bought fitting on that wall next to the bath.

Architect - I want a house designing that will fit on this plot of land. It must have four or five bedroom, two of which are ensuite and a garage with room for two cars.

Civil Engineer - We need a bridge over the river from this road to this road. It must be two lanes in both directions and should be fixed since no boats need to pass under it.

IT consultant - We need this suite of reports building. They must adhere to corporate colours and include the company logo in the top right corner.

I meant in this industry and from HMRC's point of view. Applying SDC to T&S and IR35 would simplify things for them - this will never be about simplifying things for us