Will IT contractors be considered permanent employees after one month on site?

[OwlHoot]

Wrong.

You can be sure that Govt will blame EU for the policy, but in reality in 90% of cases it would have little to do with EU.

OK, then maybe someone should whump up and submit a Freedom of Information request, to enquire in so many words what if any EU tax harmonisation measures are currently being implemented or planned.

I can't, because I'm too busy. But I'm sure we'll all be interested in the outcome in the unlikely event any information is provided.

[Zero Liability]

If this goes ahead the UK economy will suffer. The projects I am normally working on lasts for 12-24+ months, it could be quite funny to see how it would work with 24 handovers per role in a project.

Might be a good idea to move abroad before the UK leave the EU. Maybe its time to set up a guide for different countries around the globe to see which ones are contractor friendly.

It's not a foregone conclusion that it will leave, that the EU won't seek to enact similar EU wide measures against contractors in light of its bid for more 'tax harmonisation' or that mobility within the EEA will be curtailed for high skill workers if it did leave, so I think this is all a bit premature. Even outside the EU it's much easier to migrate if you bring a good, in demand skill set. There may be good reasons to migrate anyway, however.

[TheFaQQer]

Gonna really fly well at IBs, financial, or other security clearance type, required, roles.
The clearance will take longer than the actual allowed engagement.

Last government project I did, I didn't have a desk, PC or login after a month.

[eazy]

Ministers discuss £400m IR35 crackdown
Ministers discuss £400m IR35 crackdown | AccountingWEB

[OwlHoot]

If this goes ahead the UK economy will suffer. The projects I am normally working on lasts for 12-24+ months, it could be quite funny to see how it would work with 24 handovers per role in a project. ...

Good point, and to reiterate another couple of good points I have read, possibly also in this thread but maybe in the related one in General :

* Some clients take a month or more just to set up desks and logins etc to get IT contractors started, not to mention security clearance.

* Most IT contractors charge VAT. So the derisory (for all this hoo hah) £400M tax gain will be more than offset by the huge loss in VAT payments.

[topgazza]

Would this be the same Lloyds Bank that gives take it or leave reductions in rates to contractors?

Indeed.... but they are not alone in doing that. He wasn't involved that area although i don't doubt "cost reduction" is something that he was at least aware of. I don't hold out much hope as the drive is to reduce the tax gap and any means will do. Plenty or orgs "abuse" the 2 year rule including all the Gove departments. I know of 5 contractors ay MoJ that have been there 5 years

[Zero Liability]

Abuse it in what respect? It's to do with T&S expenses.

[MrMarkyMark]

Plenty or orgs "abuse" the 2 year rule

Abuse it in what respect? It's to do with T&S expenses.

Agreed, only to do with expenses.
Some of the banks have a 2 year rule, however, this is only due to the fact they don't really understand what the actual 2 year rule is either.

That all having been said, I will be finishing at this IB, in January, after a 3.5 year program.
The sign off for this has to go to quite a high level though, after the 2 year mark.

[topgazza]

Agreed, only to do with expenses.
Some of the banks have a 2 year rule, however, this is only due to the fact they don't really understand what the actual 2 year rule is either.

That all having been said, I will be finishing at this IB, in January, after a 3.5 year program.
The sign off for this has to go to quite a high level though, after the 2 year mark.

I thought there was a 2 year rule in place for outside IR35 then being in after 24 months.... maybe I've misunderstood.

[MrMarkyMark]

I thought there was a 2 year rule in place for outside IR35 then being in after 24 months.... maybe I've misunderstood.

You have misundertood