Fedora 16

[Sysman]

And then, I mean, Windows server side? Ho do you ssh into Windows?

EDIT: ... but I can see why Linux gets a bad name recently: Fedora, Ubuntu, Opensuse, flawed and bloated by default...

You are not alone in wondering why no ssh on Windows. There are third party solutions to this.

My initial theory was that MS really don't want you using the command line (good luck if you are using Server Core, then), but I also wonder if ssh means they can't enforce license restrictions on the number of connected users

[Sysman]

openSUSE 12.1 is looking OK with KDE 4.7.

Do you like the bouncing ball that comes by default?

I keep expecting to see some lyrics to sing along to

Windows 7 on modest hardware is appallingly slow; also needs re-boots.

Unfortunately anything that uses GNOME 3 (Ubuntu I'm looking at you) wants up to date graphics too. Ubuntu claims it will go into fall back mode, but promptly doesn't.

And those wretched scrollbars... well they ain't user friendly.

[doodab]

CentOS seems a fairly decent server OS plus is binary compatible with redhat which is useful. TBH I'm inclined to use solaris for server / java stuff now though I wouldn't use it as a desktop OS.

I haven't really tried linux on the desktop since ubuntu 8 or so. I tried the latest version (10?) but the biggest annoyance for me was moving the window controls to the top left. WTF is that about?

[Spacecadet]

You are not alone in wondering why no ssh on Windows. There are third party solutions to this.

My initial theory was that MS really don't want you using the command line (good luck if you are using Server Core, then), but I also wonder if ssh means they can't enforce license restrictions on the number of connected users

MS seems to reserve command line for Power users

as for SSH, it can be installed on windows servers, MS are more concerned about desktop user licenses and anyone who is using SSH to connect and then using command line is pretty much by definition an administrator.

[petergriffin]

Anyone who is using SSH to connect and then using command line is pretty much by definition an administrator.

...not on a Unix host. As long as you have an account you can ssh into any user. Indeed the latest trend is to deny root login on a Unix host (Ubuntu and CentOS for sure). You'd have to use 'sudo' to perform administrative tasks.

[Sysman]

...not on a Unix host. As long as you have an account you can ssh into any user. Indeed the latest trend is to deny root login on a Unix host (Ubuntu and CentOS for sure). You'd have to use 'sudo' to perform administrative tasks.

OS X has come with root disabled out-of-the-box since its early days.

Non-admin uses for ssh, and I'm sure folks can think of other things. Set certificates up properly and you don't need to enter passwords all the time. Any passwords you do send are encrypted.

• copying stuff around different machines: scp, sftp, rsync, rdist
• secure tunnelling of remote displays: X11, VNC etc
• database connections

[Cliphead]

CentOS for the server and Mint for the desktop. I need both for work.